From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:403:4789::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id QDyXKGU7E2W8UQEA9RJhRA:P1 (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:13:25 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:403:4789::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id QDyXKGU7E2W8UQEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:13:25 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C0F265322 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=IcSDT6Fi; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1695759205; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=YBb/oIElRiGjwS8Cfiajl/AkeGERykX/omGMz3leu/8=; b=uS47ejBTUFInlqEx4NOD4Lsa8TN0UW0PConxKneSEnvbNvqkwGTbugN5HBox4kFuuwLQ5G K0U61WaA9ghxH8caZGpCgauaJmo6vkv2V4IaEP98tcyJ66HbhTCyNh09FPUyYi5CyddLKg EKiIXRPYC30+J/8ysMJrNfJ9kcA4UV713WyJdCGcKDRLpEWSzVYg9sq/k7lb0/nlQYPdVB dwHvJd2aoVo5b7hDNKTVs811dhrxxnEjd9IEMca2XOcpSrkFytDA9yu6a6ZM+Da8FIWtXF G9M4deg+CAcwRzz8FqIJ0XXygLeCzZk82EAj+op9INUl9ak1QRffjOh5snbaiA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1695759205; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=JeQ+oj8whyrlzVGqbIt6jDoG4Gn5hi70SwTbHNVNphhkRYu8gHSU3AFyGobRuh8Nf+4Ols OT9HlWMeA3tLv0Qdg1RsBgye3xRWgxhgCmwq1CqMRW00o0jsDDS3TtLYlA+HiDAnFOHtX6 fGUIFmtvTJUFwLH5PqYI1FeycgyCYySJ00Lk8weP67ck1WIXXEJJv0RwDmQCYcVgOQllFE vK+8ubNbJh1WAwRNxK5cRSOLZjY4aJmud3DVd3wpH2Adl6YLZmDhyZT6bKZVT4ysPXCTLB movyhx0IZf+66gNGdtu93n+7aStwK3EaN1slfRIJCOTSCts6WBQKhwlxcaga6w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=IcSDT6Fi; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qlDtm-00071y-R4; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:39:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qlDtl-000717-QU for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:39:09 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-x541.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::541]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qlDtk-0006RF-74; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:39:09 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-x541.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-51e28cac164so23456161a12.1; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1695757144; x=1696361944; darn=gnu.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:content-transfer-encoding:references :in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=YBb/oIElRiGjwS8Cfiajl/AkeGERykX/omGMz3leu/8=; b=IcSDT6FiNHgRPqDmJkTv2KDMLTCD3y7dzNMJJRyNaGL2NxDWuS7fbfn1vCfkA6jiIg qQiQ2TRx2RyYhMQoavkCrtYhUonghPtYBWT1T61UaP97wMLn5+x/DI8dgTsvenllINat ve8s0S1aUl4Hlsvpppb0prHOZ3QCBFeBrcTqdnJyzL95ilFKC+kE8mkG9DY2jo+m8rjK ur6eglBX+jxj1Q3WtXkTkuYjgmg0kyVjkd31I3x9q/SkcRrbZU9gBrAuflef3b/UPTTq 6OiA5t/a8mH2BNcorm+5Ufz4MIwELIetfXfRC6bB96MobVqoSFU7X1tLf4EKz9zpl1BY tHGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1695757144; x=1696361944; h=mime-version:user-agent:content-transfer-encoding:references :in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=YBb/oIElRiGjwS8Cfiajl/AkeGERykX/omGMz3leu/8=; b=MTFp5CrjOQ+LcEqrjdB3QbRpIOvdeGzzmweXtCJk9EzyN7IWioJPj3a65GFRHuceuj 8Zn1rP0cGnMsqpxtyveiT3lu3DldFK15g8LdM8LYqSJDTaYT889Qua/3j6Le72awhcUx /U/6K1e5hvzleTbWnvpS1oGX8GLCzLZF6rlHeoiKPm91l30ZYIPv5sKuepO7JKFwVU+q /orCIKIA+nrS9+BIhL0wT53KEcbC6mE/jObCnO+JALG1m8RD2M+WMdTE+DOGGFWrUlIC rys9WZKxX7Z+o1gRXjQcfTJKiCnIE1pXRNy3sX8lRxDOe3jlvM+Vi326VY/zAHkyZbCn hYKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwQohjWPPJrEi/pzqShqTiTj2sDbOTS4TDxQuwTVUFsJW3FDXdR 8xIvyjY8nemYis75HqXk+pUoe7qxlguc/A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEXTSUtar7l0t2JOPjziAM2ysDeqjdKUeEnXrFGE//aYj//6/qI0soW39p7mWAc1ImszR26AA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:1bdb:b0:52a:38c3:1b4b with SMTP id ch27-20020a0564021bdb00b0052a38c31b4bmr5791404edb.15.1695757144414; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lumine.fritz.box (85-127-52-93.dsl.dynamic.surfer.at. [85.127.52.93]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k2-20020aa7d8c2000000b0052f3051f7d2sm7071921eds.80.2023.09.26.12.39.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <946a6484db5044944fe28011d229c36e76892fb6.camel@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Plan for NFS (was: Herding file-systems) From: Liliana Marie Prikler To: Bruno Victal , Maxim Cournoyer Cc: guix-devel , bjc@kublai.com, Ludovic =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 21:39:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.46.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::541; envelope-from=liliana.prikler@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x541.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -6.47 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.47 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6C0F265322 X-TUID: kskk03jkCPgt Hi Bruno, Am Dienstag, dem 26.09.2023 um 19:35 +0100 schrieb Bruno Victal: > Hi all, >=20 > I've been thinking on a plan to address this old NFS question. >=20 > The plan: >=20 > =C2=A0 1. Allow the file-system `dependencies' field to accept arbitrary > shepherd symbols as well. Sure, why not? > This can be done by having the `dependency->shepherd-service-name' > in (gnu services base) also accept matching against a symbol object. >=20 > =C2=A0 2. Allow excluding some file-system objects from being dependencie= s > of the `file-systems' shepherd service. I think we could turn this one to yet another boolean in the file- system record that's simply named "required?". Cheers