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However having robust importing for when those needs / maintenence on th= ose packages arrives, and for using guix to help develop a haskell proje= ct would be a good gain. imo focusing attention on the importer(s) and t= he ability to import from different sources (correctly) would be the pro= blem to tackle. On Tue, Oct 22, 2024, at 10:50, Divya wrote: > On 22 October 2024 14:32:08 GMT, Lars-Dominik Braun wro= te: >> Hi, >>> Is there a specific reason why we=E2=80=99re following the Stackage = releases? Stackage is one step slower in getting the updates. The curren= t Stackage Nightly is 9.8.2, while Hackage has 9.10.1. Is this due to so= me stability issues with Hackage? >>=20 >> Stackage=E2=80=99s package collection is coherent and so we don=E2=80= =99t have to >> manually deal with and resolve dependency conflicts. (Currently the >> Hackage/Stackage importer cannot pick the correct package version for >> dependencies when importing or updating a package.) >>=20 >> Lars >=20 > Understood. Makes sense. --ee5503faf85340709db711dfe9ac0520 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another thing t= o keep in mind is that packaging for development is different than packa= ging for a distribution. Packaging for a distribution you only want to p= ull in packages from stackage that are required to build eg. xmonad or s= hellcheck.

However having robust importing = for when those needs / maintenence on those packages arrives, and for us= ing guix to help develop a haskell project would be a good gain. imo foc= using attention on the importer(s) and the ability to import from differ= ent sources (correctly) would be the problem to tackle.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2024, at 10:50, Divya wrote:
On 22 October 2024 14:32:08 GMT, Lars-Dominik Braun <la= rs@6xq.net> wrote:
Hi,
Is there a specific reason w=
hy we=E2=80=99re following the Stackage releases? Stackage is one step s=
lower in getting the updates. The current Stackage Nightly is 9.8.2, whi=
le Hackage has 9.10.1. Is this due to some stability issues with Hackage=
?

Stackage=E2=
=80=99s package collection is coherent and so we don=E2=80=99t have to
manually deal with and resolve dependency conflicts. (Curre=
ntly the
Hackage/Stackage importer cannot pick the correct=
 package version for
dependencies when importing or updati=
ng a package.)

Lars

Understood. Makes sens= e.

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