From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8BMPKV1MvmAYEAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:42:05 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id cOKSJF1MvmCvLgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 16:42:05 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F5AF1DB61 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 18:42:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53272 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqIKC-0006Of-5Z for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 12:42:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56620) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqIJy-0006MC-UU for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 12:41:50 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:60022) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqIJw-0001pI-0t for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 12:41:50 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FzJzs39cgz1qt3l; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 18:41:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FzJzs2kJxz1r0w5; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 18:41:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tJ_9KdMQEfZ6; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 18:41:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermia.goebel-consult.de (ppp-188-174-54-164.dynamic.mnet-online.de [188.174.54.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 18:41:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lenashee.goebel-consult.de (lenashee.goebel-consult.de [192.168.110.2]) by hermia.goebel-consult.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF6A600F5; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 18:41:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Some more rust/cargo insights From: Hartmut Goebel To: John Soo References: <7d180f4a-3e5f-374b-0fcd-6ae5b438a1c8@crazy-compilers.com> <20210606183857.gthvipntymstivh4@thebird.nl> <1030d59f-32ef-bab0-00f7-aa81f2133517@crazy-compilers.com> <20210607082830.uo73mksfvogfxxf6@thebird.nl> <423077fd-39c6-4bff-b4a8-26d33ce6c41d@Canary> <7087581e-eb31-ff48-50b9-443d7676e498@crazy-compilers.com> Organization: crazy-compilers.com Message-ID: <88699d23-fd52-1f06-fa83-5145ff5b6186@crazy-compilers.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 18:41:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7087581e-eb31-ff48-50b9-443d7676e498@crazy-compilers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.18.0.9; envelope-from=h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com; helo=mail-out.m-online.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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My >> understanding is that they figured something out.  Worth a shot, but >> I’d rather the problem be fixed upstream. It will just take >> collaboration. > > I did not check their tollchain lately, but package-earch still does > not show many packages > . > Last time I check, they basically do what guix does: compile > everything from source - again and again. > Just checked: Debian has quite some source packages [1], which even list "binary" packages (which are development packages). Anyhow it seems as if these are just the source again [2] [1] [2] -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goebel@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com | compilers which you thought are impossible |