From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: guix system: error: service 'ssh-daemon' requires 'networking', which is undefined
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:54:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zipbm9r6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEwRq=romQ0hR5Mu6Dx3bmvzjcSrv8eO26++cbEHSnvdg-VcQQ@mail.gmail.com> (Vincent Legoll's message of "Thu, 21 Jul 2016 10:48:28 +0200")
Vincent Legoll <vincent.legoll@gmail.com> skribis:
>> From a regular user's point of view, this still misses the point,
>> which I originally attempted to make. I suggest an error message like
>> this:
>>
>> 'ssh-daemon' requires 'networking', try adding
>> 'static-networking-service' or 'dhcp-client-service' to system
>> services
>>
>> Or something like that. The point is, make it clear that "requires
>> networking" means adding at least one service to the operating
>> system's services and make at least one suggestion. Definitely a step
>> forward to user friendliness.
>
> I concur, from a simple end-user, sometimes guix error messages are
> at best cryptic. It looks like the messages are expecting the user to be
> an experienced scheme coder. If guix wants to get more users, that
> experience should be enhanced.
>
> Backtraces are great for debugging, not as user interface.
Examples please! :-)
I think we agree on the goal. Guix is rarely supposed to show
backtraces; when it does, it may be a bug that needs to be reported and
fixed. The fresh eye of new users is invaluable in pinpointing such
problems!
Thanks,
Ludo’.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-21 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-15 12:39 guix system: error: service 'ssh-daemon' requires 'networking', which is undefined David Craven
2016-07-15 12:58 ` Jan Synáček
2016-07-15 14:27 ` Vincent Legoll
2016-07-17 6:50 ` Jan Synáček
2016-07-15 16:50 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-15 18:04 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-19 12:43 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-21 6:30 ` Jan Synáček
2016-07-21 8:48 ` Vincent Legoll
2016-07-21 12:54 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2016-07-21 13:00 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-21 13:35 ` Vincent Legoll
2016-07-21 13:57 ` Jan Synáček
2016-07-21 14:39 ` Thompson, David
2016-07-21 15:35 ` Andy Wingo
2016-07-21 16:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-21 13:36 ` Jan Synáček
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-07-15 12:24 Jan Synáček
2016-07-15 15:05 ` Alex Kost
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