From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Maxim Cournoyer Subject: Re: NetworkManager instead of Wicd in =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98%desktop?= =?utf-8?Q?-services=E2=80=99=3F?= Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 05:28:40 -0700 Message-ID: <87zibk7ptz.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87iniaf06l.fsf@gnu.org> <87bmo1ltus.fsf@netris.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dc9oW-0006Up-CN for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:28:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dc9oT-00082u-6q for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:28:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bmo1ltus.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2017 13:25:47 -0400") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Mark H Weaver Cc: guix-devel Hi, Mark H Weaver writes: > ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > >> Shouldn=E2=80=99t we replace Wicd with NetworkManager in =E2=80=98%deskt= op-services=E2=80=99? >> >> I=E2=80=99ve given it a try on a GuixSD GNOME installation and it appear= s to >> work well, and it=E2=80=99s obviously well-integrated with GNOME, wherea= s Wicd >> is a bit hidden (one has to know what to look for) and =E2=80=9Cforeign.= =E2=80=9D >> >> Thoughts? > > I've been using Network Manager with GNOME for several months at least, > and generally I find it works very well, and reconnects much more > quickly than wicd. Another reason to let go of wicd is that it doesn't support IPv6. I tried extending our dhcp-client-service some time ago but got stuck with some peculiarities of dhclient. > However, there is one annoying bug: every time I reboot the system, the > first 1-3 times it connects to the network, name lookups do not work. I > always have to manually ask Network Manager to disconnect, and then > reconnect. Sometimes I have to do this two or three times before name > lookups work. After I've done this, it works perfectly until the next > reboot. > > I looked into this a bit, but haven't yet found the cause. When name > lookups are failing, /etc/resolv.conf exists and is correctly > configured. I've tried restarting 'nscd', but it doesn't help. > > One caveat: for some time now I've only tested Network Manager with > wired networks. I've recently been unable to use wireless, because I > had to replace the motherboard in my Thinkpad X200, and haven't yet > gotten around to getting the clip I need to reflash Libreboot. The > proprietary BIOS refuses to boot with the Atheros wireless card > installed, so I had to remove the card for now. I've noticed the same (lack of DNS resolution) following a reboot for some minutes and was also wondering what was causing this. I'm using wicd as part of the %desktop-services, so that specific problem is probably not related to NetworkManager.