From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id AMvNL1UJ3l4KZAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 09:48:05 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id qwC7K1UJ3l5mcwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 09:48:05 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E3869403E9 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38308 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jiENv-0000QK-UL for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:48:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jiELR-0005Uy-Qa for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:45:29 -0400 Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:41789) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jiELQ-0002vP-DJ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:45:29 -0400 Received: from bababa (lfbn-idf2-1-1315-147.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.169.129.147]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF2DB200015 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:45:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt To: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Lightweight Emacs (or "GTK+ minimal) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 11:45:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87zh9dhowd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.232; envelope-from=mail@ambrevar.xyz; helo=relay12.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/08 05:45:23 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.61 X-TUID: 0HJnh8D+AQlR --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guix! I'm working on reducing some package closures. Looking at Emacs, it drags: =2D llvm =2D mesa =2D guile =2D cups / ghostscript / hplip =2D wayland Turns out that it seems to be all because of GTK+ (to be confirmed). 1. Does anyone have a recipe for Emacs without GTK+ (that can also display pictures)? 2. Can we make a GTK+-minimal? At first glance, we could strip some 300 MiB from the the 700 MiB GTK+ closure size. Also I wonder why guile is in there. Thoughts? =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl7eCLIACgkQm9z0l6S7 zH/QjQf/VM3QJzT82Bow1R8RXryMrzvrpp7zKRkOyWFacZKtLszlERR3b7XXCnE3 b0jpDjxoSQDiZCYKCOZGqiGIZOQuVPAMIa3IpmufMrLExWBlZqcDhDn+cBYUjZBw 4iX6Kxu3p9YFFK3nHn+JiHGdoVBiiu5y5clKjmV8IoPIIUa04tuLEov6VihXCj3a w27+K983rmanQ6FhaBsa0x0+I+H64WAEZ84Wa/qvwaNIzNBEdSVlyjr6wYEWzdUO B8u0JCxiwE483zi6PNjKIgScCVuEKC47Be4Q9LN/3AsGfNo5Jhtr0vUrr69xCF7A nYgklmCYOy5BNpL8qu/bLoHXmG4bMw== =Ps9y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--