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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1657656832; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Nqz4fQwh/yHrWgIJ8MmyCNNloZVCeAtlWyig7q+3gTY=; b=HVx47qh7P3WxOD5boAzKC9E2cR/u9xNRX+ybW5JFAojUDWpL90oJdwogT49NQ7bJDB3s3d UD3NlEiiNjWjxIz6Gki4Bgb+smiJG2NQmiZp4YvnmGoQpXBEIbS4Odg4Wc/hiO9D76JTzX hIF1zyAIou1m4aagazUwvKLg2XLxNNRStD0EgZZ4eNCIe6gG1KkSyqidyOy/Vs8S7YLdAu iTAfocUC0ftR7CsxEZu3q+SXQyhrwNwNxypct2rcQHmYqBYcrGBut6qocbew/+mYkGSELZ a8EJuIMTDMJRkum8XSeiXg8npwRQdPWkWWJYHGIeKxhGyTWuJgK+6MDX9CZpZw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1657656832; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=icJ/bVXsksYlmNGBCpXtuDlxvcl5CeGhQb75ysQRdsbunWjGDa/xID386jwhBaEfzJ5iq0 5ZugXIN0+PKYBWI2LM7SvQFAm1Ve+y2/kEh1eY2enSSHob0hdu2bo32dqWJon1ixG4mYpm HgDqjnn1u/Xm+auh2qQtWu1HgzKnJOwG8/JrYmU9cw35nuMUzlSGALYc+YgK6dR5A0OaS7 mZHOFkW6uDAzyQtXVOOs1OY8UDSv90N2L612+gwojW4I9347NWRKrMx7J6WFL4vIJGevfW lXA2WHyMHY/5gSg1MWiJGZHVuc9EB25s3Xi2WAyuoGyqC+yILmtbbAq+NxJqZA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=iUU7HmVs; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.85 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=iUU7HmVs; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DBCE717B93 X-Spam-Score: -5.85 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: D2tYR5l19IAW Josselin Poiret writes: > Hello, > > Joshua Branson writes: > >> I would love for Guix to be a Multi Kernel package manager (I mean it >> works on the Hurd also, but I have never encountered a Hurd user in real >> life). My dream would be to port Guix to Plan 9 ;-) > > I don't think Guix runs on the Hurd in the same way that Guix runs on > Linux: the (gnu system hurd) tells me that the daemon is started with > --disable-chroot, which actually disables all isolation mechanisms. > There would need to be a significant effort to port the isolation > mechanisms to the Hurd. > > Seeing how the daemon is in general left alone since C++ is hard > compared to Scheme (and there's always the "but we could rewrite it in > Guile" excuse), combined with the difficulty of interfacing with > kernels, I'm not sure BSD support (or even Hurd support) will appear > anytime soon. > > Best, Someone was working on NetBSD support but ran into libc differences or something and didn't get much support.