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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1687238819; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=YXFHKz72IKE8JyUTCdLuR+Z0tcqUwBFEjVwcDFy5+zk=; b=qG1k2nUtQzSxa70/sbQ5PdeYbh82xeaBMtsM8wtLklSQMz7djBwokdEe70L0jL92taw49t 22RFw2ICGWLQ+cmX0NXuIvMjxPOM6SN1364T58fIrC8D5CwBeM5szONgJO0zZ77BBv103r Zo/wBxoQan44kkIRx2ZZDu7KD5PlC1qJyuIjmSiQzghr6fOzUAcZ8VNpz78og6U3Ycpwh9 rmDvZPiwH/USGbcwMLVVzN/PQ6411f29Ar0PhFni5CCyeJmaJWAqonmUMGF6fs/M/CUgst Ksma3bAsuyRm1kVPTM8C4nHP40k7qdSCpomXbCUWcw7uzJERs+LRfM449uCYwg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=NIlDeBNG; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1687238819; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=RBOulyZ722eOeNrVF0PkpYRdZRo+S4ngg0QulpQtEo2NokhEk6UP7Jn++VQTDiPAKv4ZAp TSmKfWJmVB0Lb2VpRVE2pDd0oMkMXzw87bXvOyuFzkhJC8Ke8Kx6GdbQxOR4UUQ9GqOHi+ uV8cvbhwJs8E6fTWIFd3mdOtluEogFM/QAdkZRa6Dw58jWJgmquUe0+QxMzTTrG5ijnUWW TV7W15JJccQGNuE9jJT3HL+MBWn843W8kMsl0K7Vq2tLtGCNnws/PDBMc+sWPy3L/HvJQ0 Gr8y1euPSIzvyJ9Uowytc8Nx93dwbAAginHuSrVKAZWDyDXyBvHuozsTGPnxyw== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.08 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=NIlDeBNG; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 82AADA0C7 X-Spam-Score: -5.08 X-TUID: WLFjcXspGjjB kiasoc5 writes: > On 6/19/23 08:54, Nicolas Graves via Development of GNU Guix and the > GNU System distribution. wrote: >> One of the criticism that can be read online about Guix (compared to >> Nix) is its speed. I have never tried Nix and probably won't in a near >> future, but I was wondering if some work has been made to compare them >> on basic tasks (package installation, removal...) (the reason why I ask >> is to be able to give an honest answer to someone hesitating between >> both). >> > > At least package installation is faster with Nix. One reason is that > Hydra (their "substitute server") has faster download speeds compared > to CI/Bordeaux, likely due to multiple geographical locations/mirrors. Conversely, Nix itself is likely to be slower than Guile. I remember search being so memory intensive with Nix that it got OOM killed even with 4 GB of RAM, although they may have fixed that since.