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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.98 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -3.98 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D890840866 X-TUID: jo4YeaJgN3+K On 2024-01-18, 14:25 +0100, Andreas Enge wrote: > thanks for your report! Hey Andreas, thank you for getting back to me. > This is quite amazing. One of the most depressing experiences at a CCC > was when I went to a Lisp assembly, and there were at most a dozen > people around a table, none of whom used the same Lisp dialect. Haha, yes, I can see how this can very well be a risk! The advantage of a Lisp assembly is the economy of scale. That'd combine together various projects that were all massively under-represented at 37c3 - I'm primarily thinking of Guix, Guile, and Emacs as those are the projects I care about, but there are others too. If we build enough momentum, we should be able to have decently sized assembly subgroups - in other words, we should be able to avoid the twelve-people-that-speak-twelve-different-lisps scenario. :) What's not ideal with a Lisp assembly is that Guix and Emacs are not programming languages and, despite related to Lisp, their scope and ideas transcend - or are partly orthogonal to - Lisp itself. An other option would be to go the "FOSDEM way" and have a "declarative and minimalist computing" assembly instead - what do you think? I still have a slight preference for the Lisp assembly idea, but let's see what the general feeling/preference is here in the ML. 38c3 won't be happening any time soon anyway. :) Thanks, best, F. -- Fabio Natali https://fabionatali.com