From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 0JQ8O5axhV/zIgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 13:54:30 +0000 Received: from aspmx2.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id GNMeN5axhV8ZDgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 13:54:30 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx2.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0F68680B4D for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 13:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60692 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSKiK-0007vt-Cc for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:51:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49410) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSKi4-0007uR-NP for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:51:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSKi2-0004A1-CM; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:51:23 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=44220 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kSKi0-0001MV-Bs; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:51:20 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Danny Milosavljevic Subject: Re: Shipping more installer images? References: <863630u6ap.fsf@gmail.com> <20201005101836.6qpcozxccisdf7yy@pelzflorian.localdomain> <8EFC55BC-8EE9-4A35-8E2E-B8BBA88B27EC@lepiller.eu> <87r1qcye9p.fsf@gnu.org> <20201006065939.GB21174@E5400> <87imbn6dgu.fsf@gnu.org> <20201006072616.GD21174@E5400> <87lfgj4win.fsf@gnu.org> <875z7fu0mq.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20201012154842.71c14e1a@scratchpost.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 22 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:51:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20201012154842.71c14e1a@scratchpost.org> (Danny Milosavljevic's message of "Mon, 12 Oct 2020 15:48:42 +0200") Message-ID: <87y2kai694.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel , Mathieu Othacehe Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-TUID: KiaUBOp52Kzj Hi, Danny Milosavljevic skribis: > On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:47:25 +0200 > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > >> Mathieu Othacehe skribis: >>=20 >> Keep in mind that images use space at ftp.gnu.org and also take time to >> build (having CI up-to-date helps with that, but it doesn=E2=80=99t not >> eliminate build times due to the =E2=80=98update-guix-package=E2=80=99 d= ance that takes >> place during =E2=80=9Cmake release=E2=80=9D.) >>=20 >> Likewise, if we ship more images, we should update the =E2=80=9CSystem >> Installation=E2=80=9D section accordingly and be clear about what users = can >> expect. >>=20 >> I guess all I=E2=80=99m saying is that we should not make such decisions= lightly >> and be sure to examine all the consequences. > > I agree. > > IMO there are only very few RYF-worthy ARM devices--and we should support > at least those, if we support any ARM devices at all. That includes > providing images for those few (at least A20-EOMA68, A?0*Olinuxino*, and > Novena). So that=E2=80=99s 3 more 1=C2=A0GiB installer images, right? If we target = Oct. 29th, how are we going to test them in the meantime? How long will it take to build them, even assuming we build on an OverDrive? I don=E2=80=99t want to spoil the party, I think it=E2=80=99d be great to b= etter support those devices, but it seems to me that there=E2=80=99s still quite a lot to= be done before we can offer that with reasonable confidence. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.