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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1624592077; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=UVKHUi15gzIv9U2UjD2KjV7GtUPGf1z13ZXr/N5MPLw=; b=Q6df+1Q3ijPAmx7fMM4++uJCk6GclobB1hsqPfgVtUJSW1+77SxjwGG7ZA+lX2Res73Ij0 bmSOMntzODBqZCJpshA8pEVHek4mHBmRFLrAxLsGPTgR4YDYf/BkLZlaISg9kqtkPk8byO hPCfWdwCJtxOLHtluicQwg833PxfqxJchAzkaCY751yDick5Ibm9frpUuGN800z3VDJnU5 /WenjTihvmLTo//E6xzMNFfbFxNnzaaicJEq23GTvxZWmpAavR/dRjbnzPtrWGHnbfT8Il 23GUsswSJCmct/kDcatwgx0HqwxTOA6Wr2qc7YQdWFgJ05FnEALX+8g5RzLj4A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1624592077; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=jTJ1ZJ/XM9JvN9o3ZXsbdBT7mrMJyoHdL3fqRFj/E0EvCvwfkXxc7OukiNDDOL3umlHgBm 8MsV4S8BE2l4oJ9qCv7gS0v4zRogBTM59KmaUcAWr5aJDO9DW0/ZcFNn/iZAhlHzlu2i1s tA1u/Mej1JVLv4l6OPDpuRr4rBejdeGXzRHZUNSqzBd4fVarLlD4aGlkC4HjV9pBckPbMo rUu1qVQqFKxQtT0B//mWDfpF29lx8bfyq/UOTDng5AKb3Ljx4/KT85/cviMNd5s5zCu6MG UqYCIKEev88ysD2XYYhVG+cPVdI4CL+be0xi+Oafx2k2oXmZ+9KqxUsk409aZg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=aXU38fei; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=aXU38fei; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3A0091F931 X-Spam-Score: -3.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: RX0jA5clDKce Hello Thiago, Thiago Jung Bauermann writes: [...] > I decided to ask on the TeX Live mailing list about the bootstrap problem= =C2=B9=20 > (not sure why this didn=E2=80=99t occur to me earlier). It turns out it= =E2=80=99s not a=20 > real circular dependency, it just appears so because of Guix packaging. > > It=E2=80=99s possible to build texlive-latex-l3kernel with IniTeX (i.e., = by calling=20 > `pdftex -ini` or `tex -ini`) and docstrip, without any format loaded. It was worth it to ask :-). > So I made some changes to texlive-build-system to that, and it worked. By= =20 > which I mean: the texlive-latex-l3kernel package builds, and the texlive- > latex-base build is attempted and fails in the same way as it was failing > when I sent the last email, when generating latex formats. I think I=E2= =80=99m=20 > missing some file(s) with definitions for LaTeX macros, but I don=E2=80= =99t know yet. > > I pushed a new branch =E2=80=9Cbug-48064-texlive-2021-l3kernel-initex=E2= =80=9D to my GitLab=20 > repo at https://gitlab.com/bauermann/guix.git with two patches implementi= ng=20 > the new approach. I had a cursory look at the commits; they look good to me! And the commit messages are very useful in understanding the hows and whys. Make sure to send them to guix-patches@gnu.org after you are satisfied with the result! Happy hacking, Maxim