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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1660904542; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=T8R67gILzQyQ8SMrL+2iZ5946n65ngLHR8qI6kL7b0A=; b=RG+lFhJVZpW+lwz3LthcGfjVgrRscAx9Sx4Vrd6UXwhb0Y+GuoJzcsd7WnMa2aWce6zddf IYvlYWKZxShMj1Jz58vlGCOkEOA42oDrWbr+1/nfcMRBOWWc3IzvAWnTzqAu4srKTxYvEx u+mEyG12s4xNA7V2TbTD16kYanF8CL70losvTLpbQM7+Sv7Z5ufBF6RYpDStKor5c36/yu /Bm4X3BA+VPpjNtYJqXUDCVnsxhJWp+41RLgHwybtKxMMrVYgQ2lSoYIamWrR9WAHkmzRL 3dUhe6sWoHVbBzAN88zbemkchuX04E1+93/ATN57qURLfuL30TIWfShoMFzfBQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1660904542; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=r2O4wMumUSWyP662KnNkYWbxfnWZi6ab/5+N1T4tacJEYyy4Je1QEoDHx/4Bo+C6bfSYfK 5JuiEhm/pi4szuvBHqpO4WgO+9eZ637RLBu1xDLskDfGRXxkstTVJU7Nx5wXV97HSPg1TN CKS4rmtuH7fjXwV5AJOB6wCEeXr5hFsevMKjUYVKn7aW6v7EXgcs7yUfwnfpDDa/gbiCSd gaocBDzrvb1VKSzDwVVca6UTH5mVLv9nXSjt4GClt7n00ZCKoBzcMG4H0RvBZsm2lS7Qiy 6cuyRrBwIi2gEmH+P/V+lKfpcsfbs32EkTk8crJWrtuPiLPMYSyNP0O9u7XGvQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=jpoiret.xyz header.s=dkim header.b=F3c9QfM6; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=jpoiret.xyz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.85 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=jpoiret.xyz header.s=dkim header.b=F3c9QfM6; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=jpoiret.xyz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CBD7D3AF21 X-Spam-Score: -3.85 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: CpLJd6kQ0HqJ Hi zimoun, zimoun writes: > Now #53210 [1] is closed, it improves the situation, right? Is it > enough for the C extension you are working on? > > 1: Well, wrt. the C extension, it doesn't really improve much, there's still the issue of having both build systems that Ludo summarized work the same, and also the guix snapshot is still used for the system-wide guix, so the issue remains. Best, -- Josselin Poiret