From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id yP5HLXzbY2MS9wAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 16:17:16 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id sLYqLXzbY2O0ggEAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 16:17:16 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83F6574EA for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 16:17:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqbxY-0002Wx-Bw; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 11:16:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqbxX-0002W3-7S for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 11:16:47 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqbxW-0007kf-Cp; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 11:16:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=hyWF2WMLcHog3ZQOlcjBt5gya2xgC/WcZwcVsRgJ9Qs=; b=KSGTZg0TGOuXvlHzixQU 3KUrYTOmbK8+voEvSMHtdxLO1RiYo8gZYJjhK2rvu18p4YXsfJ/g3TQvPhsItQRDfyumzsPsWw/wK 5b/Ge9xEo4k1x9AJRx1BxyADoHOBoPjBI6DgfdYX4yhBhicCsONO7xps2zKwzFrjGM/Yl+Z+C0amE 9riPZwAAd1CjxQbfkMPr9TDUsPvIP6/jQ3/VHih/KVV9+J7HDq2mixuq4KlifS7EprFHERQG+FxCO 7hxtwdJfWVm32EvPZItl1UA0XOjmjg34WB+Pr+Lq2xtMLCBo+jIw3lVUvkbOcyg6FfqmK9HkIcfW3 CjkhGAENJ905jw==; Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqbxV-00063G-T5; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 11:16:46 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Maxime Devos Cc: Guix-devel , Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: Antioxidant (new rust build system) update - 100% builds References: <877d0dvc0h.fsf@gnu.org> <5e73212c-4c95-817c-c823-7c8ea744987f@telenet.be> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Tridi 13 Brumaire an 231 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volu?= =?utf-8?Q?tion=2C?= jour du Topinambour X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2022 16:16:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5e73212c-4c95-817c-c823-7c8ea744987f@telenet.be> (Maxime Devos's message of "Wed, 2 Nov 2022 12:33:56 +0100") Message-ID: <87y1ssoyp0.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Guix-devel" Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1667488636; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=hyWF2WMLcHog3ZQOlcjBt5gya2xgC/WcZwcVsRgJ9Qs=; b=dzTS9/Ib7IKShIklSaGr0lNkpIc+Z1FVYq/QAYRPI74jFhoOUmq2lzrccrFfhdlhoH63BP +Xm8n9kaEMeku1vJCuliXSVVv3OZzEqGBpk/ccFYHgFkkiMaQoqWP6k9LMUs8B8CbKqFjp 2Katd8R5PnDAO1uOT/JNkUfIWTqvi4rAPkdmRr2F/3KNeNTvCdIYF0/SNIZ9zxBr0+kUlC wEXhZ3u7tZ0OK1DfotWyNKpRn7fnqX9BshbPLaxgAjzNB5MXJv8Qh3oOv6gj3Fg9PI80tm /giMZQXa/O1nTaZff1A0Vpy9CET33cDLdYxLA+w2SwHTFfbX0q7muJb2W3bNfA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1667488636; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=RjvOIInKuG5x7KqftpGeocALYjHBVnoBFYaUotU7BAksgvtC9EwSC5o1Wca1EWz8WUYVch Bd3FLksPTHAbETEkkwgWffV5ECn9KBG2GHl1YIZUq8M8Dm/W7mu54EZ+Qv1dacm4D3A3pv UyU0tDJdsUFlJvUd7qGhgVMAI3DGjKKAw4TEzO05QX23Szus15oiIHmpBNMZJgQtKLyJXh pr9CHV5zCTymZJek/qAsUBU59dPHnPq5D24ay02F/N1TVolEtWSLFlPJ7IKIb56+Qyo6tB qalS5yk+TXa+RKSxrU18EVtOVxec0w9m6qvSoxqd1eajdi2z2cBYP5etMT/vIA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=KSGTZg0T; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.81 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=KSGTZg0T; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 83F6574EA X-Spam-Score: 1.81 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: md4BXIGR6hOx Hi, Maxime Devos skribis: > On 02-11-2022 12:20, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> [. ..] >> That=E2=80=99s but it probably needs= work if >> we want it to work reliably on all the packages. My understanding is >> that we=E2=80=99d need a =E2=80=9Cflag day=E2=80=9D where we=E2=80=99d s= witch all Rust packages to >> Antioxydant in one commit, is that correct? Any ideas how to achieve >> the big migration? > > That's the idea I think, yes. For this big migration, I propose to > make the "guix style" good enough to do the switch at once (and let > ci.guix.gnu.org build it etc. before merging). OK, makes sense. > On how to achieve this: the basic antioxidation (e.g. move > #:cargo-inputs to inputs) is currently fully automated (*). Then > there is stuff like 'add this-input to that-package', which is > 'half-automated', in the sense that there are a bunch of declarative > alists for that, interpreted automatically but declared manually; > those could be interpreted by "guix style" as well. Perhaps we could temporarily support the =E2=80=9Cold style=E2=80=9D, using= the run-time transformation currently in your repo? That would allow third-party channels to migrate peacefully, and it would also reduce the likely hood of breakage during transition in Guix (e.g., if an old-style package is merged while the new branch is being built.) Anyway, please do ping people here when specific action is needed from the rest of us! Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.