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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A86F95ECDC X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-TUID: B2jyHfaBpHHZ Efraim Flashner skribis: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 11:34:50PM +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: [...] >> Shepherd 1.0-to-be (current =E2=80=98devel=E2=80=99 branch) gained a gen= eric =E2=80=98timer=E2=80=99 >> service that does the job the =E2=80=98at=E2=80=99 command would do back= in the day >> (before the advent of CD-ROM and the information superhighway): >>=20 >> herd schedule timer at 07:00 -- mpg123 alarm.mp3 >>=20 >> We=E2=80=99re talking about something quite similar, just not delayed, r= ight? > > systemd-run has a --timer flag, and I could see adding a flag for > shepherd-run after shepherd 1.0. > > To me the big thing systemd-run brought was being able to launch > programs from the shell and have it show up in `systemctl --user > services`, and I'd like to be able to get commands I run from the CLI to > show up in `herd status` the same way. Easy. :-) That=E2=80=99s really what =E2=80=98herd schedule timer=E2=80= =99 does, except it=E2=80=99s delayed. > systemd has some more magic I wanted to steal, like being able to launch > GUI applications from systemd-run. Trickier I guess, because you need to pass DISPLAY etc. Food for thought! Ludo=E2=80=99.