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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.51 X-Spam-Score: -7.51 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 24DBB4094C X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: 5R4Eebp8Bs1p "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" writes: > Ricardo Wurmus writes: >> Efraim Flashner writes: >>> Lets make releases boring :) >> >> I'm a very boring person, so this deeply resonates with me. >> >> No matter if people agree with this or not, I think we should get a new >> release out very soon. Do you know of anyone who volunteered to >> shepherd the upcoming release? I've only ever signed off on one release >> (0.13.0?) and I'd be happy to help get another one out of the door. > > Ludo asked at > > > and even though there were responses, there was no drive. > > I will *not* be working on it, but one perhaps blocking issue might be > failing tests on Debian: > > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/69518 With the recent merge of the python-team branch a lot of packages are now broken, so I suggest scheduling another python-team branch merge before a release can possibly be made. I'll be pushing to the python-team branch with some fixes (and likely some new breakage) soon. We're at a point with Python packages that we cannot delay upgrades anymore, so whenever a fix requires an upgrade and that creates ripples that necessitate more upgrades we should keep applying them. -- Ricardo