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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Add murmur.
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:31:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wpcw3iks.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170210221536.iv5rktzx43b6xddv@wasp> (ng0's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:15:36 +0000")

ng0 <contact.ng0@cryptolab.net> skribis:

> On 17-02-10 22:54:21, Marius Bakke wrote:
>> ng0 <contact.ng0@cryptolab.net> writes:
>> 
>> > On 17-02-09 23:50:02, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> >> ng0 <contact.ng0@cryptolab.net> skribis:
>> >> 
>> >> > On 17-02-09 17:50:04, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> >> >> Hi ng0!
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> contact.ng0@cryptolab.net skribis:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > This patch adds an proposed change to mumble, murmur as an output.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I’m reluctant to “non-standard” outputs like this.  The reason for
>> >> >> multiple outputs should be to reduce the closure size for standards
>> >> >> uses.  What do we gain by not included murmurd in “out” in this case?
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Ludo’.
>> >> >
>> >> > We remove the server component (murmurd) from the client component
>> >> > (mumble).  I imagine that if you run murmurd, you will not want mumble
>> >> > in the same user profile.  And if you run mumble, you probably don't
>> >> > want murmurd.  The default is a client, adding murmur output is logical.
>> >> > But this is just my view.. I would not want a server unless I explicitly
>> >> > expressed my intention to have it
>> >> >
>> >> > What do you think?
>> >> 
>> >> I think the only reason to separate things usually is size, not
>> >> “aesthetics.”  So I’d be in favor of keeping both in the same output if
>> >> there’s no size problem.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Of course this is a theoretic issue, but the separation of server+client
>> > where applicable when the nature of an application allows it makes sense
>> > to me.
>> 
>> What does `guix size` say about mumble:murmur compared to mumble:out? If
>> the server does not depend on any graphical features, I think a separate
>> output makes sense. mumble alone is ~1GiB.
>
> As far as I know right now, it does not have any graphical features or
> dependencies.
>
> mumble:murmur -> total: 1072.6 MiB
> mumble:out    -> total: 1111.2 MiB

And what about the total reported by

  guix size mumble:murmur mumble:out

?

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-11 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-01 20:43 Add murmur contact.ng0
2017-02-01 20:43 ` [PATCH] gnu: mumble: Add 'murmur' output contact.ng0
2017-02-01 21:15 ` Add murmur ng0
2017-02-09 16:50 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-09 18:20   ` ng0
2017-02-09 22:50     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-10 21:39       ` ng0
2017-02-10 21:54         ` Marius Bakke
2017-02-10 22:15           ` ng0
2017-02-11 14:31             ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2017-02-11 14:39               ` ng0
2017-02-12 13:37                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-12 13:53                   ` ng0
2017-02-12 13:57                     ` David Craven
2017-02-12 14:02                       ` ng0
2017-02-12 14:37                         ` David Craven
2017-02-12 17:01                           ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-12 17:42                             ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2017-02-13 14:15                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-12 17:54                             ` David Craven
2017-02-14 10:13                               ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-14  9:00                   ` ng0
2017-02-12 12:23       ` server and client in one package -> security issue (was: Add murmur) Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-12 12:31         ` ng0
2017-02-12 12:53           ` David Craven
2017-02-12 16:52             ` server and client in one package -> security issue Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-13 14:13         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-14 10:28           ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-14 11:19             ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-14  9:16         ` server and client in one package -> security issue (was: Add murmur) Danny Milosavljevic
2017-02-14  9:51           ` ng0
2017-02-14 10:44           ` server and client in one package -> security issue Hartmut Goebel
2017-04-24  7:01             ` Maxim Cournoyer

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