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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Building Guile with ‘-j1’?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:43:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wnvwyk9s.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sg6lnq0j.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Thu, 28 Jan 2021 14:35:08 +0100")

Hi,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:
>
>> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> writes:
>>
>>> Hi Ludovic,
>>>
>>> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> As the saying goes, “the cobbler’s children go barefoot”.  Guile/Guix
>>>> are no exception since Guile builds are non-reproducible, despite work
>>>> done a few years ago:
>>>>
>>>>   https://issues.guix.gnu.org/20272
>>>>
>>>> Until it’s fixed in Guile proper, what do you think of building Guile
>>>> 2.0/2.2/3.0 with #:parallel-build? #f ?  We could do that in
>>>> ‘core-updates’ now.
>
> I pushed that as 2ea52f90141974fb5d88b8c6b1785817c4203da4.
>
>> I'm not too found of it.  It'll make the already slow Guile build much
>> slower, making the lower strata of core-updates packages more painfully
>> slow to build and test.
>
> Yes, it’s suboptimal.  OTOH, as I wrote, I think the slowdown is not as
> important as one might think: a large fraction of the Guile build time
> goes into building ice-9/eval.scm and the first few files, which is
> already sequential (enforced by Guile’s makefile).

I've built Guile many times on core-updates since and it seems to be
true, that the build time didn't change noticeably.

>> It'll also enable us to overlook the issue for years to come
>> (similarly to the fact that the testsuite of the Guix package itself
>> hasn't been run in parallel for the last 6 years or so :-)).
>
> It remains and bug to fix in Guile, no doubt.  But we also have to be
> pragmatic IMO.

I had the feeling this partial fix would cause build the build time to
explode, but given it didn't, I'm happy with it.

Thanks,

Maxim


      reply	other threads:[~2021-01-28 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-20  8:41 Building Guile with ‘-j1’? Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-20 10:19 ` zimoun
2021-01-20 10:36 ` Gábor Boskovits
2021-01-20 12:16 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-20 21:01 ` Mark H Weaver
2021-01-21 15:17   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-01-28 13:35     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-28 18:43       ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]

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