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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1625576028; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=QQrXe3d4qb3hH0ocjHBfxE9v9DYgu/FkPZ6uDwjvxDo=; b=gpmbvvzKGIKSqxQecCWXvcPqs6g3eZKB/ctzceRyUU5ioDpwk74EY4QilQ+sCa0IL5K82f TFEOJ5GIQkHf0lvkmFuMtFQqGyvmoqyd5+omzQAGTKlsSIO9AT3LY2YnjrENb1B5Dz51yj gywY57CYvo6EKtwCK1MC82I+bAsgJ3dRJQ2324HRC58L6a47gZ3Z8qGGqgC1cOjoYEGQ/E uprj1/hzmfi2Gnn3OddxOpNztkb3uz62o9GciOSNq87oxSfUd12vhwgGyWXsCEbXZH7jN4 cZjstmlW8V0V+NgQOVFqz04HasZnqiogR5Nb6J1R7ZOcJ6ms6qFCwSANhmXoEw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1625576028; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=EqEjAgYI21V6Dj12Vziz6rkFcQxAiE8XlsCl/V/RkB+zU2+MnVuaoIKOhkxNbYvRvvjM1I r9K8OP+90oXh4BwFyUusU1X6ecqXA6Uq1ZaV1wttQjyFf4TPEKrXDnIeG/H1Kqt1UQkkb6 m5u7Pz3cy++GN5+IJNCJQrJyTfWWP6q2D95CRfzw+jsH1/CeJIGaX+95pX/f2vz2HJ5Z1g 8DeEcJIkVII6VdnSY39y35yLEwjHRU4jobiyC2p3scbrhI0EJoC4Es7POyJumjXjkyXF8x nHbDRqINegtAdqjPS0zvaVuBa+Kr8XGxRufuUoGMMHjw2y+jfrzohxZP6XKahg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=Z5ejyWwF; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.61 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=Z5ejyWwF; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E519C20A02 X-Spam-Score: -2.61 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: yE8RudEVQ/yl Leo Prikler writes: > If I read terminals.scm, we already disable the telemetry in kitty: > >> (invoke "python3" "setup.py" "linux-package" >> ;; Do not phone home. >> "--update-check-interval=0" > @Bone: Did you notice any other telemetry during your further code > review (or are you still in the process of reviewing the code)? If > not, please try to cross-check Guix sources to see whether we already > disable telemetry, so as to not cause unwarranted panic :) I have followed up with kitty's use of telemetry by opening an issue on the kitty repository. https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/3802 I suggested that all the uses of telemetry be documented and that there be a configuration to disable all telemetry. My interpretation of the response is that the update checking telemetry is the only telemetry and that the way to disable it is how it is being done in terminals.scm.