From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id wHA0HXxp7GAzCAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:10:36 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id +B/UGHxp7GCNVgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:10:36 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DA64CDD2 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:10:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46568 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m2yVv-000277-0U for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 12:10:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37222) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m2yUI-0000Xq-IH for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 12:08:56 -0400 Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([46.4.214.66]:52174) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m2yUF-00056p-PM for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 12:08:54 -0400 Received: from localhost (ip6-localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1933021B9; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:08:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ns13.heimat.it Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns13.heimat.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W5or6PHYagTq; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bourrache.mug.xelera.it (unknown [93.56.171.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ns13.heimat.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E0393021BB; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roquette.mug.biscuolo.net (roquette [10.38.2.14]) by bourrache.mug.xelera.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CA6210BF5B6; Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:07:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: (nullmailer pid 17000 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 12 Jul 2021 16:07:39 -0000 From: Giovanni Biscuolo To: Bone Baboon Subject: Re: Audacity has new administration In-Reply-To: <87eec3k422.fsf@disroot.org> Organization: Xelera.eu References: <87pmvokdr6.fsf@disroot.org> <87eec3k422.fsf@disroot.org> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:07:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87wnpvldmc.fsf@xelera.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=46.4.214.66; envelope-from=g@xelera.eu; helo=ns13.heimat.it X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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Bone Baboon writes: [...] > # On by default telemetry > > On by default telemetry is being introduced to Audacity. This does not > comply with the No Malware section of the FSDG. > Will be possible to disable Audacity telemetry in our official Guix package definition using a build flag or a patch? AFAIK the answer is yes, this means Audacity Guix package can (easily) be "transformed" to be FSDG compliant when (if?) telemetry will be set opt-out upstream; if the answer will be no, we should remove the next Audacity-with-undisableable-telemetry version. [...] > # Freedom 0 > > Audacity can no longer be used for any purpose. Section 3 of the Muse > Group's new privacy policy for Audacity > says: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- The policy below is a DRAFT document. It does not apply to any current Audacity release as these do not include networking features. =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- it's still a draft and it does not apply to current release >> 3 Minors >> >> 1 The App we provide is not intended for individuals below the age >> of 13. If you are under 13 years old, please do not use the App. I really don't know the rationale for that (draft) privacy notice, but - although IANAL - I'm almost sure they can not add any sort of restriction to run the program via some sort of "EULA-like" clauses like a "Privacy Notice"... so let's see how the legal situation of Audacity will evolve: I'm pretty confident they'll remove the above mentioned article 3 (Minors) before the next release :-) [...] Anyway, as Leo P. correcly points out, Guix can provide both official Audacity (with telemetry disabled by default) and any of it's coming forks. Happy hacking! 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