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We do use the scripts. Unfortunately, the older deblobbing scripts have now been removed from the HTTPS URLs that our linux-libre build recipes fetched them from, so I guess there will now be difficulties for users trying to reproduce any Guix system more than about a month old. If we wish to preserve Guix users' ability to reproduce older systems, we will need an 'origin' to fetch the Linux-libre deblob scripts from that has a policy of retaining older releases, unchanged and at a fixed location. Apparently the HTTPS URLs at that we currently use are not suitable for that purpose. The Linux-libre git repository *might* be suitable, but I haven't yet seen a commitment from the Linux-libre project that they will retain the tags for older flawed deblobbing scripts in their repository going forward. Without tags protecting them, I guess the commits could be deleted by 'git-gc' even if we referenced them directly by their commit hashes. Perhaps the SWH fallback is the answer we need, if they are archiving the Linux-libre git repository. Does anyone know if they are? Thoughts? Thanks, Mark -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- From: Alexandre Oliva To: linux-libre@fsfla.org, info-gnu@gnu.org Subject: GNU Linux-libre's nonfree releases removed Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 14:08:01 -0300 https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/#retired-2021-09-27 2021-09-27 - Removing obsolete releases and repositories We celebrate the 38th anniversary of the GNU Project and of the Free Software movement by removing past releases found to contain nonfree software. Their cleaning-up scripts remain available from the git repository, and from releases/old/gen6. We're also removing long-obsolete repositories that still contained builds of those and of even earlier releases. Instead of freed-ebian and planet, we recommend Freesh. Instead of rt, we recommend LibeRTy. 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