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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1640360609; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=QVV43Iw8H0A5PYyA2VBjng1ZY5g/60L6ZJZ1RwYA+XY=; b=AZ5LX4Th+AHtoM5T5P5OpWfqpLJqYZeRs3J1VrulozZElN2QIoFY83swpDgGnfYYGqY4Vw T1uMO5pKWPf9ABC3qkktG3+TeoQx475Yg+2Fzfq80p9INuiGkTLCJhhN4dWUJOK0xZHKmU FSkUhsAmFWf7DP08xhdgpl/jQegQbJe66UI6Og8eN/1StIxdIrMcrdRH9oODN2Rs1jPHZ9 Jtj7h3ugy7TzSM7rfv7zIsYBTAjF8X+xQ424DU7zOIYGk1ZQCSEuUwguZ1ap/QAtX2WjMc TGodupm3KLTVNGXmkVmFRRadp/YR9xMHP8mdD8MFCjJGu4DGE7PAncMwJOwCBA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1640360609; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=BOiTfAJ3TsqEM+5Lqg3W3iTQlIMtL471uInaRVkurIv0Ku+lnuOQCnwD/M1Sb0K74TaTWf NJLNGvmoeLI6FZhaFChesZ16dKkunA/ySvkkuT+ofKpGuzWM/8VQnAXCyBErKIZ70t6Dpr QkfXpODTkyNH4lyq2uaBpN2+5VK8OIWdodd1IQDGBup0pxq7bo0B7mR+WhcuKLEO3UC3G1 6Ti9VvXJ3GTJIy6Mr/PkoJ5RUKxwccFtRml+2JM0/CQjP4lHWbArP4oHk6Vn+4tYpQPlIH 93/Q+xILS6WZanRzw3L0QT8uBi6/kapVEf74i3upr4zmYTfFNVDEhf3exXpJog== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=libre.brussels header.s=mail header.b=n1mV4ZTR; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=libre.brussels (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.46 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=libre.brussels header.s=mail header.b=n1mV4ZTR; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=libre.brussels (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D74391029F X-Spam-Score: -2.46 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: UpKUUFApLlv9 Good catch! TBH, I did wonder whether the feudal eptimology of the English word may raise eyebrows. Hartmut Goebel writes: > Am 23.12.21 um 22:51 schrieb Jonathan McHugh: >> I reckon 'coterie' is more elegant a term: > > IMHO we chould not use this term. > > The German translation is "Seilschaft", "Kl=C3=BCngel" - both of which ha= ve > negative meaning: Working together to the benefit of the members of > the group only - ignoring common interest.