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David Dashyan skribis: > I've been interested in adding cloud-init support for a while already. > It would make Guix much easier to use in a cloud setting. I did ask > people weather anyone is interested in it couple of times in #guix and > also mentioned it on the mailing list couple of times. People didn't > seem to express much interest but once they have it they'll like it a > lot I think :) It is common practice to spawn other distro type and turn > it into Guix or install Guix on it and do "guix system init" on mounted > volume and then swap them. Not to mention the fact that every now and > then there is a new question on running Guix on some other vendor. Guix > deploy was made exactly for that in mind, wasn't it? Yes! It may be that the intersection of cloud/devops people and Guix people is still too small (for one, I know =E2=80=98guix deploy=E2=80=99 bu= t I=E2=80=99m just discovering =E2=80=98cloud-init=E2=80=99), but work in this area would be v= ery welcome, precisely so Guix can become more useful in this area. It=E2=80=99s a chicken-and-egg problem that you can help address. :-) Would it be an option to add a =E2=80=98guix deploy=E2=80=99 backend for cl= oud-init? There are currently two backends under gnu/machine/*.scm. This would add a third one that uses cloud-init to perform deployment. Does that make sense? If there=E2=80=99s interest in it, I=E2=80=99m happy to provide guidance fo= r the code. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.