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Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl References: <20221027035100.28852-1-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <20221027035100.28852-3-maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> <87leojon1z.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <877d03xywl.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfihfpng.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <86zgcpju9p.fsf@gmail.com> <87y1s82o23.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgckwdtw.fsf@gmail.com> <87sficqb71.fsf@gmail.com> <86fsebdpl9.fsf@gmail.com> <87r0xrjbx1.fsf_-_@gmail.com> X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 08:09:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r0xrjbx1.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (Maxim Cournoyer's message of "Fri, 25 Nov 2022 10:23:22 -0500") Message-ID: <87wn7c7wbf.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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It's hard to convince people to pick Guile for their > project when there is: Yes, I thought so too. I made an attempt to do these thingssome time ago, but did not fully see it through. > 1. Lack of a debugger that can break and step anywhere in your source > code I didn't get thse patches to work https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2014-08/msg00004.html > 2. Lack of debugger integration to an IDE (it's not even integrated into > Emacs) This made it into Emacs, though https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2014-08/msg00006.html Greetinsgs, Janneke --=20 Janneke Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond https://LilyPond.org Freelance IT https://www.JoyOfSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE https://AvatarAcade= my.com