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From: Giovanni Biscuolo <g@xelera.eu>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>,
	Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli <GNUtoo@cyberdimension.org>
Cc: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: FSDG issues of SCUMMVM-based games
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:38:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wmzxyzuy.fsf@xelera.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <219ecbcb11da8f43d70c6acdedd17d9177790022.camel@gmail.com>

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Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com> writes:

[...]

> Note, that this discussion started IIRC a year ago and we have
> practically known about actually existing FSDG violations since then. 
> My approach here is quite simple and pragmatic: Remove the games which
> obviously violate the FSDG (that is all the games currently depending
> on ScummVM as far as I know)

I totally agree with this simple and pragmatic solution, but the FSDG
violation is not that games are distributed with a non-free license
(IMHO the license of some or all games have the same legal effect of the
SIL Open Font License v.1.1, that is considered free [1])

AFAIU the violation comes from the absence of the source code (or just
the build tools?) to compile the game to ScummVM bytecode (other issues
with the way games are compiled and distributed can be patched, AFAIU)

IMO when removing teh games is very inportant to mention the motivation,
since it will be useful for potential similar use cases.

> but keep ScummVM for now to allow folks to experiment.  If in some one
> to five years we still find no practical way of using ScummVM with
> only free software, that might be a reason to remove it then.

Yes, keeping ScummVM is not a clear FSDG violation AFAIU

Thanks all for the heads on!

[1] albeit very poorly worded: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#SILOFL

-- 
Giovanni Biscuolo

Xelera IT Infrastructures

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-21  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-06  4:59 FSDG issues of SCUMMVM-based games Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-06  6:36 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-08-06 14:41   ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-08-07 12:52   ` Christine Lemmer-Webber
2022-08-06 15:24 ` Maxime Devos
2022-08-06 17:00   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-06-15 16:30   ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2023-06-15 17:34     ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-06-16 15:41       ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2023-06-18  8:19         ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-06-18 19:07           ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2023-06-20  4:30             ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-06-20  8:00               ` Efraim Flashner
2023-06-21  1:27               ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2023-06-21  8:38               ` Giovanni Biscuolo [this message]
2023-07-23  8:10                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-11-24 18:54               ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2023-11-24 19:52                 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-24 12:53 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-08-24 18:44   ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-08-24 20:24     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-08-24 21:31       ` Maxime Devos
2022-08-24 20:24     ` zimoun
2022-08-24 21:48       ` Maxime Devos
2022-08-24 22:08       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-08-25 19:26         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice

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