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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.38 X-Spam-Score: -5.38 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 42B4F1551A X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: 85ji9Q35jQoW Hi Felix, > I also packaged and deployed on GNU Guix > > (A) the fifteen-year old Debbugs version deployed at gnu.org [2][3][4] > (B) the modern Debbugs version deployed at debian.org [5][6][7] > (C) and a custom version of Mumi for my own bug fixes [8][9] > > Together with the official debbugs.gnu.org, which runs on Debian 8, and > issues.guix.gnu.org, I am now working to fold all five deployments into > one. Let me just pop in to say thank you for that. I appreciate you taking the time to talk to Debbugs / GNU folks to work through the obstacles that the current situation with the GNU fork of Debbugs presents us with. I don=E2=80=99t want to add weight to the scales on either side (a future w= ith or without Debbugs), but I think it is important to identify the actual limitations and opportunities of the existing platform and chart the shortest route around them. It=E2=80=99s how we ended up with mumi in the first place, and I=E2=80=99m = hopeful that this approach can get us to a better place when it comes to tooling. (The biggest chunk of the problem may well be a social issue, that can only be overcome if we find a narrative we all can comfortably enact.) --=20 Ricardo