From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich =?utf-8?Q?Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1?= =?utf-8?Q?=2FKammer?=) Subject: Re: Contributor covenant Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:22:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87vb865a0g.fsf@T420.taylan> References: <87poyfu4ey.fsf@gnu.org> <877fkn33sa.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a77jg-0004hn-No for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:22:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a77jf-0005sr-Fk for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:22:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877fkn33sa.fsf@gnu.org> (Mathieu Lirzin's message of "Wed, 09 Dec 2015 18:55:33 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Mathieu Lirzin Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Mathieu Lirzin writes: >> In commit e15fcdd, I added a =E2=80=98CODE-OF-CONDUCT=E2=80=99 file take= n from >> , which is essentially a way of >> telling the lurkers out there: yes, we do our best to be welcoming and >> we=E2=80=99re committed to doing so, so join us! The guix-maintainers@g= nu.org >> address it mentions is currently an alias for ludo@gnu.org (though I=E2= =80=99d >> like it to become more than just me!). > > Since Guix has (in my experience) always be a nice place, I don't think > this is necessary to have this. As much goodwill is the intention of > this code of conduct, the ideas behind it don't make consensus in Free > Software communities which can lead into unnecessary divisions (and we > have already a lot of them). See: > > http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3D6918 > > The problem is that this code of conduct pretends to give a warranty of > an "harassment-free experience", which is is a slippery slope (Sorry to > not be able to expand more on it in english). IMHO it would be > preferable to revert this commit, and let the necessary decisions be > taken case by case when a bad behavior among Guix contributors arise. ESR has some great technical contributions (most recent I know of being moving Emacs to git), and social too (I owe him one for maintaining the Hacker-Howto which was *the* document that initially got me into FLOSS, Unix, etc.), but when it comes to "social justice" issues like sexism and racism, I'm afraid his blog is not the best place to look... Taylan P.S.: if I were to go full-out on social ideology, I cannot recommend Andrea Dworkin's books any more strongly. There are free PDFs here: . /off-topic