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From: Katherine Cox-Buday <cox.katherine.e@gmail.com>
To: Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Sniping "guix deploy"
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2021 23:06:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9393wgy.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210910014504.77da1263@tachikoma.lepiller.eu> (Julien Lepiller's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2021 01:45:04 +0200")

Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> writes:

> As a rule of thumb, when you update multiple systems and one system
> provides security for another, you should update the security system
> before the protected system if you restrict access, and the other way
> around if you allow more access. Maybe we could add that to the manual,
> in addition to letting users configure upgrade order?

I am not a Guix deploy expert (although I have just begun using it --
it's great!), but it seems to me that this is a higher-order mechanism
that wields deploy in a certain way.

I.e., as I understand it, deploy is going to walk the list of machines
you give it and run the deployment synchronously. If you wanted to build
references between machines, for security, live-upgrades, or otherwise,
I would think you'd declare some kind of data structure other than a
list (probably a graph) which would tell deploy what order to perform
the deployment.

Rolling back is a whole other matter, but I imagine that same data
structure could tell deploy how to walk it in reverse.

So, not that I have time to work on any of this, but what I would do is
shore up deploy so that it's nice and robust (I think it's still early
days), and then work on a declarative way to define machines and their
dependencies, and then a function to produce a sequence from these data
structures so deploy can stay an iterative type process.

Just late night thoughts from me :) Thanks for the input!

-- 
Katherine


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-10  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-09 23:45 Sniping "guix deploy" Julien Lepiller
2021-09-10  4:06 ` Katherine Cox-Buday [this message]
2021-09-10  5:07   ` Jack Hill
2021-09-10 15:36     ` Katherine Cox-Buday

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