From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id 3im7LylpOGQRJAAASxT56A (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:42:17 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id KG8DLilpOGRtCwEAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:42:17 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFA15E245 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:37:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pn3eP-0006x2-CB; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:34:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pn3eL-0006q0-Ck for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:34:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pn3eI-0004Cy-1F; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:34:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To: From; bh=0SRNXm6VCMNkbF8dOjV/PN3TeHxoJ72t8ye34nf5d/E=; b=WX9dDoVZ2UXXKuQvb5JS rHPATBGpSAxPiJpeFJsjsjiEGueNXuX/A8Yc1MRbsyUYc9K5A0yhd8TotcufSgjRfMxT4c3KirIDA ZIVQvUOoTFRgd0AoTagQFswLIeAT3FdvtDP14xa0zr1eFmQ9sfcKVFJM6CGXKvF4eMjvifxF8/BvZ 5ALMZb0z8jNnNjW6z+EJ5VED1m960bevNOS8fPNoJPx2MzVi5nuqSFxQ13/iwfxen8oLDIPAs459P v0/as260MMD4ds4cdY5vw99T/xaqmzK49mIPKUPMRj3PfmzHcFm0tNNFPS6LgDfqEXV5WbRa1F4ji mPlOdfsMdiXZyw==; Received: from [193.56.243.80] (helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pn3eG-00014f-Gz; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:34:28 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Liliana Marie Prikler Cc: guix-devel Subject: Re: GOOPS-less Shepherd References: <87r0swhilc.fsf@inria.fr> <3f375510a5c66c7d6c8a9abdcad61ce3f06e20e2.camel@gmail.com> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Quartidi 24 Germinal an 231 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9v?= =?utf-8?Q?olution=2C?= jour de la Roquette X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 22:34:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3f375510a5c66c7d6c8a9abdcad61ce3f06e20e2.camel@gmail.com> (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2023 10:15:44 +0200") Message-ID: <87v8hzwmgd.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1681418267; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=d7yrpLUcfDEFqMKouf3ajDyE+NhsQMkhaR63fZz7JS6dq7LmrLC8xca0mWRwfgxv2bYwiQ Be4qaFTRf3k/uOIDkYcv1sX2vxznQ6HipLf05rhV9foeWqeZj9WtCsbT3fmZP9K6ogyzUP WrhagBz6NW60LxZOFOYAU2hA97uIhtBULX06IE5dsSt9G0nQh6Z3UEw3hvQWEJCk4fMeQA 9sLQR8PcebaQwXkZfMG6aBgR1TmZOFsfaGpNTptvV3eJlgph1eHWXFVUIkN7g+Ds0CuEtg nHZ15UynLk3hLx94uL/IzNog97oZu9Edcv5BAI5SiFfBjfOxYzxKIT65VcCPlw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=WX9dDoVZ; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1681418267; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=0SRNXm6VCMNkbF8dOjV/PN3TeHxoJ72t8ye34nf5d/E=; b=Gb0SgbFEPtW++/fpQzQwrOUnQzPxF/7TgOokd72EbARRnC0KAlLCKzctEpQyyG7JBy3FY1 APIN2pRJWaGnx5HlQ4hX/Y7GYE/CGMqKIACcRZAjRPUNXwe9ecvo2SdWEZyGEtna45FWQq nhwSI0Mrsz/zTKE0p1j+Zk5WP4V2Q7E5zaMEbDd9snueHzEV+5dpC7NSqOLb+u8zP6itm2 kIR1jL2RAr80Eks/FGMjoZZA/7C9LUNk/B94UlEpTrOgXLZpKn6FpcTbXsyfURTJSDAKeP Id0p00ORxryq53UqAfnjw3DQ/gkD2PeCbOkWHhd3ow8FBeXq6OEkO7G6NRbskw== X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AFA15E245 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=WX9dDoVZ; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.52 X-Spam-Score: -9.52 X-TUID: 0iN5/KW3XCQB Hi, Liliana Marie Prikler skribis: > Am Donnerstag, dem 06.04.2023 um 22:16 +0200 schrieb Ludovic Court=C3=A8s: >> What=E2=80=99s at stake, mostly, is the ability to reconfigure a long-ru= nning >> shepherd instance.=C2=A0 Once 1.0.x is in Guix, =E2=80=98guix system rec= onfigure=E2=80=99 >> will most likely fail to upgrade services on a pre-0.10.x shepherd: >> users will have to reboot. > This caveat however, will only be a one-time thing, right? That is, > once running Shepherd 0.10.x or 1.0.x, you can reconfigure without > needing to reboot supposedly until the next API break happening at > 1.90.x or 2.0? Yes, exactly. Ludo=E2=80=99.