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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 773973F027 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-TUID: NHeO24h58ilP Hi, Simon Tournier skribis: > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 14:59, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > >>> It doesn=E2=80=99t feel great to tell users to report a bug for things = that >>> aren=E2=80=99t bugs. They=E2=80=99re either closed, or never followed = up on; it=E2=80=99s a >>> poor experience on both ends. >> >> I agree, it=E2=80=99s pretty bad. >> >> I=E2=80=99m fine removing the =E2=80=9Creport a bug=E2=80=9D message, ma= ybe replacing it with >> some clearer diagnostic and suggestion? WDYT? > > Could we detect if it comes from networking? Somehow catch the error > and run some code that checks stuff and so report more =E2=80=9Caccurate= =E2=80=9D > messages? Someone=E2=84=A2 would need to analyze some of the reports we have (some of= them have already been commented on) to determine what happened and whether that is something we could diagnose differently. Ludo=E2=80=99.