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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.41 X-Spam-Score: -6.41 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1C4FF431BB X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: aFPymd8QnCUt Ricardo Wurmus writes: >> Let's say we have two channels in the future: $guix-slim and >> $guix-extras. Wouldn't it be sufficient for $guix-extras to depend on >> $guix-slim ? If not, could you please elaborate? > > You have multiplied the release problem by two. If more releases pose a problem, then yes, we've increased the problem. The set of challenges imposed by a release are not clear. As well, it's unclear whether the challenges are insurmountable, and if not what the cost of overcoming them is. However, in order to keep the discussion about releases focused, I agree/propose that this tangent, about possibly splitting up the monolithic Guix channel, be discussed in a separate thread (by those interested). -- Suhail