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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Gammel Holte <gammel.holte@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Optional runtime dependencies in Guix
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:38:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twzwuyn9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGFCsG_56f_bqH_rMQcff46AV4Pq8H-GMPTh9LtrFaYgMwdQdg@mail.gmail.com> (Gammel Holte's message of "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:38:38 +0000")

Gammel Holte <gammel.holte@gmail.com> skribis:

> For example, consider samtools, a package I use daily and that was recently
> committed to Guix:
>
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/bioinformatics.scm#n139
>
> It forces me to install python. In contrast, consider Arch AUR's package:
>
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/samtools/

From looking at the page above, it seems that it would be feasible to
simply move varfilter.py to a different output.  That way, users would
be able to install the default output (which doesn’t depend on Python),
or the “python” output.  Ricardo, WDYT?

> An extreme example of this is weechat:
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2014-09/msg00229.html
>
> Compare with:
>
> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/weechat/
>
> Guix version forces the user to install all interpreters for running
> user-defined scripts to extend Weechat. These are quite many: lua, perl,
> python, ruby, tcl (and guile).

Yes, I hadn’t noticed this and I agree this is problematic.

Kevin, any idea on how to split things?

As I wrote before, there’s no one-size-fits-all recipe to address the
problem, just a couple of usable patterns (basically separate outputs or
separate packages.)  So we need to address this mostly on a case-by-case
basis, and also probably clarify this in the packaging guidelines.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-12  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-23  3:43 Optional runtime dependencies in Guix Gammel Holte
2014-11-23 20:47 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-11 15:38   ` Gammel Holte
2015-01-12  9:38     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2015-01-12 11:23       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-01-12 16:03         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-12 13:11       ` 宋文武
2015-01-12 16:26         ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-12 18:47           ` Andreas Enge
2015-01-12 19:18             ` Gammel Holte
2015-01-13 17:28               ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-13 17:24             ` Ludovic Courtès

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