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Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> skribis:

> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes:
>
>> Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl> skribis:
>>
>>> For anyone interested, Eelco's description of Maak, a functional make,
>>> is here:
>>>
>>>   http://nixos.org/~eelco/pubs/iscsd-scm11-submitted.pdf
>>
>> It would be interesting to see what a Maak translated to Guile + Guix
>> would look like.
>>
>> The =E2=80=98makeLibrary=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98compileC=E2=80=99, and other=
 functions used as illustrations
>> in the paper would be quite easy to write using our current APIs.
>>
>> Ludo=E2=80=99.
>
> Reading this... it's interesting.  It looks like Nix and Maak don't
> share code, but do share ideas and contributors (and a founder)?

The Nix and Maak languages are basically the same, and ISTR Eelco=E2=80=99s
thesis mentions something Maak-like built on top of Nix.

> So, assuming we had that theoretical guix-make, would it be usable
> without running Guix as a full package manager, or without running the
> daemon necessarily?

No, I was just thinking of something built using Guix as it currently
exists.

Ludo=E2=80=99.