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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Robert Vollmert <rob@vllmrt.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: git-fetch origin output is read-only - and reproducibility
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 23:41:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tva8j2s8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C723E1A3-A406-4A43-84EC-9F9C0BF46A6F@vllmrt.net> (Robert Vollmert's message of "Tue, 30 Jul 2019 09:37:14 +0200")

Hi,

Robert Vollmert <rob@vllmrt.net> skribis:

> On 29. Jul 2019, at 18:10, Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> wrote:
>> Most build systems inherit from the gnu-build-system, so they’ll get to
>> reuse the “unpack” phase, which conveniently checks if the source is a
>> tarball.  In the case of Java archives it doesn’t do the right thing,
>> because it doesn’t know about Jars, so the ant-build-system overrides
>> that phase, etc.
>> 
>> Dealing with sources sometimes requires special knowledge and the build
>> system might be best equipped to employ that knowledge.
>> 
>> What would you suggest the fetchers implement to guarantee that the
>> sources will always be of some expected form?
>
> I would suggest that they specify the archive type, and either
>
> - repack the archive to a standard format, e.g. .tar.gz (this should then also
>   apply to sources that are local directory trees)
> - unpack the archive to a directory tree

Note that ‘git-fetch’ & co. currently produced fixed-output derivations.

If ‘git-fetch’ were to systematically repack to a tarball, we’d
introduce a dependency on tar + some compressor, which is not always
desirable.

> An alternative change that would make the whole setup a bit less confusing
> would be to factor all the “standard” build system stuff out of gnu-build-system
> and into a base-build-system that provides source unpacking and phase handling
> and nothing else.

I agree that this would be an improvement.

Ludo’.

      reply	other threads:[~2019-08-22 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-29 14:57 git-fetch origin output is read-only - and reproducibility Danny Milosavljevic
2019-07-29 15:49 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-07-29 15:58   ` Robert Vollmert
2019-07-29 16:10     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-07-30  7:37       ` Robert Vollmert
2019-08-22 21:41         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]

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