From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id p7+yLze7vl5ZbQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 15:54:31 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id mELNKje7vl4zNwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 15:54:31 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 584A894001C for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 15:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:34094 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZcfO-0000pj-8d for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:54:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZcfF-0000p4-IA for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:54:21 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:33173) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZcfD-0005BQ-7s for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 11:54:21 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5C1A2400FB for ; Fri, 15 May 2020 17:54:14 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1589558054; bh=eEMUVS3QSvvnRyAGFqZ0RXYfcezkjb5axGLXHqVPxFU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=TIm6gpsr0E7fZMb7dJCHVBPcG1aybOJhBYQxm2RCu6KaNKDWK18RZcGIyAjtDh3vu EV1eBnhITXfkYTH0oqwJPqSdpLpWivzZbTedNxRgN5F9sdIMlm7xPeMpLz6iuAEchE 78FlxddsMtUWsK/ROFps8RwI1+ahAo64XAUjRxNymzhGArBk6CYEzjevj7BTAh8ZZk KOH3yifXCd32+TjZjSOpM32cHrOTh0uA4EtWYlwfnBaraogqsWLMFzqkl0N4NE5A2n HZUevbEPQEPVKp0fcySSEvY/PKgGp6ZlTPATG88R4BIGh7XAffUQPJBBOgegcPO0wi 5PNHsT3bXn7YQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 49NtJ52XW0z9rxf; Fri, 15 May 2020 17:54:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Diego Nicola Barbato To: zimoun Subject: Re: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9Cguix_--help=E2=80=9D?= should point to https://guix.gnu.org/help/ References: <87blmpijrs.fsf@elephly.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 17:54:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: (zimoun's message of "Fri, 15 May 2020 13:00:58 +0200") Message-ID: <87tv0hkxcr.fsf@GlaDOS.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=dnbarbato@posteo.de; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/15 09:53:27 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=posteo.de header.s=2017 header.b=TIm6gpsr; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (strict)" header.from=posteo.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.09 X-TUID: xLY4KJgCeQPY Hey, zimoun writes: > Hi Ricardo, > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 12:20, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > >> annoyed by the fact that people turn to Reddit for help with Guix =E2=80= =94 a >> venue only very few of us frequent =E2=80=94 I wondered if our help chan= nels are >> visible enough. > > Maybe it is "cultural" or/and "generational" thing and we cannot do > really better. Maybe some people prefer channels as Reddit because > they are a bit "afraid" by email and/or IRC, especially maybe on > official channels. Maybe because when someone has a problem, the > first thing they does is a query to popular search engines and then > browse some Reddit-kind of channels, so maybe they feels like it is a > good entry point. Maybe some people appreciate the voting system > (upvote, Discourse, etc.) to be "rewarded". Etc.. > > Well, I am not convinced it is an issue about visibility. :-( If the main issue is people turning to the subreddit for help, we could also kindly ask the moderators to advertise the official help channels in a sticky post. After all some people might turn to Reddit before even thinking of running `guix --help'. [...] Regards, Diego