From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id cI3MNXW6rl8gIgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:55:17 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id ePx3MXW6rl9cJAAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:55:17 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 933869403E6 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:46466 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdcM0-0005o3-DI for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:55:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdcKt-00052q-LH for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:54:07 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34878) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdcKs-00044N-Ky; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:54:06 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=37672 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdcKs-00043F-69; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 11:54:06 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Pierre Neidhardt Subject: Reviving Emacs-Guix References: <87ft5dzj2z.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 23 Brumaire an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:54:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ft5dzj2z.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:45:08 +0100") Message-ID: <87tuttci4z.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution , Ryan Prior Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.51 X-TUID: F6G2X32VH2Fu Hi, Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > I believe it suffers from 2 main issues: > > - Geiser is a strong dependency: everything depends from a well-working > Geiser REPL. That=E2=80=99s a feature! > - Geiser 0.12 broke the REPL setup :( > - Geiser chokes on large outputs, which happens on any Guix build. So > you can't build anything with emacs-guix. Not a problem if Emacs-Guix were maintained, IMO. We can talk to each other, jao (the Geiser maintainer and primary developer) has always been responsive and helpful. > - Emacs-Guix uses private parts of Guix if I'm not mistaken. Since > these parts are prone to change, it breaks Emacs-Guix once in a while. Once upon a time, Emacs-Guix was part of Guix proper, precisely so we could make sure both stay in sync. Alex Kost was doing all the work on Emacs-Guix and decided to maintain it separately in 2016 (commit deb6276dda81a69da38e842d269c5370a28fa5cf), even though we knew such problems could arise. This has worked well for some time, but now it=E2=80= =99s obviously showing its limit. > Finally, it seems that Emacs-Guix is mostly unmaintained now: > > https://github.com/alezost/guix.el/issues/38#issuecomment-617718043 Oh, that=E2=80=99s sad. :-/ Any Emacser around willing to take care of it at least in =E2=80=9Cmaintena= nce mode=E2=80=9D? It seems like fixing the issues we currently have wouldn=E2= =80=99t be too hard. Then we can tag a release. I think it would be beneficial longer-term to have the Emacs-Guix repo in the Guix group on Savannah, from the perspective of Conway=E2=80=99s law= =C2=B9; it=E2=80=99s also probably a safe way for the project to deal with contribu= tor churn. But if whoever volunteers prefers to maintain it elsewhere, so be it! WDYT? Ludo=E2=80=99. =C2=B9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law