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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1623158830; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=AKsPwKwdhNrQvPh21lrEyycjcmvDilbmHn4ndT29LUQ=; b=CjE60Kyk01J6l4oXslPi8ZFSM3OAYFbB0nufctRYLq3MoPxngpJU2DbiqimuWl2sCF7/Ok 9HVfkkH4mqFELjCoDi8s9y5ch2XtwjmnXKowdWyzTjmSwcalGMUKgcIdVbNDp/P2GvLSqG wizyEWYg1pXhAo1FWf7hFafGJEZ69RkiqHwb6dTCJ9WlDPLBnduI1aXOCysfKnE1yecxh6 grPHgxOFhE9ZwNJp4C4TMMScFSoEPjdp+jgE2TZaAt4HoprsKKrxAMtVKkkzD2OWaRSfnn hIvwZz9NEW0rWjadqj9QvqR1BRChGon0wxoqazDScJfMCDaczUAxOBiikMVXLA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1623158830; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mdWBJ2CuNdCfqAB7oPYzubZQqjFiVs6hSdTpT2uy84z5RUYLzdLmCKdU9FmAK8ERw/jaju g6pUVsS123/r04ey/c5114kvHbNUPPZSc4Duaw6W/kpXWDkF93L7QEkASIs+JdJv2q6srt nsMLFMDTCyjbGzf/Z3ZJ2AVs9H25LXuJ83w/P2mykZPwsGFhJMU0a0lXN8y73si0ZMxNDf niARRFaw5MfxDkc0HnxLrkd5nZzjuALavgyPan+pJgxoU1xEQtl5ki8g1GeQfwNqnJ7sbJ wkDFabgX2GTPM5SOfEYcdd7AAzqwU3+phMnCksEDMlXP80AK8RjF1amTqFlmmA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.92 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5C02BF2D4 X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: hsqrhJkd8+LX Hi, Raghav Gururajan skribis: > Quite a few people I know, who tried guix for first time on foreign > distro, mentioned to me that they presumed the installation script to=20 > cover everything, including application-setup. > > Is it possible to automate application-setup through the installation > script or is there a technical issue? That=E2=80=99d be nice. I guess you can give it a try! As an example, commit b2683a2bed424f58722c9c17c9582e3e2e19d9a3 added support to check for the availability of nscd. In the discussion at several issues were pointed out: (1) the script cannot always guess how to install and start nscd, and (2) it=E2=80=99s considered =E2=80=9Cbad style=E2=80=9D to install stuff be= hind the user=E2=80=99s back. This is why the script currently merely warns about a missing nscd. Depending on the application setup bits you=E2=80=99d like to automate, you= may or may not encounter these issues. HTH! Ludo=E2=80=99.