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References: <9c2ca57d59672fc4f9ebc0230b08d8953030a456.camel@telenet.be> <87zgl5npss.fsf@gnu.org> <9cb1906a35eaf1692fbbc1312cceca18cca3d2ff.camel@telenet.be> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 16 Germinal an 230 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2022 14:06:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <9cb1906a35eaf1692fbbc1312cceca18cca3d2ff.camel@telenet.be> (Maxime Devos's message of "Fri, 01 Apr 2022 12:03:12 +0200") Message-ID: <87tub7pwdt.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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Maxime Devos skribis: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s schreef op vr 01-04-2022 om 10:58 [+0200]: >> As a first milestone, maybe we could start running =E2=80=98autoreconf= =E2=80=99 more >> often, for packages higher in the graph.=C2=A0 We could change the >> =E2=80=98bootstrap=E2=80=99 build phase to do that unless it=E2=80=99s e= xplicitly turned off. >> It may turn out to be a Sisyphean task though=E2=80=A6 >> >> Thoughts? > > Changing all pre-existing packages, maybe. But doing this for new > packages (reducing review effort) and perhaps when a package is updated > (for purity) should be feasible I think? Then gradually things would > improve and eventually(TM) doing the switch in the bootstrap phase may > become feasible ... Yes, we could do that as a first step (in fact it=E2=80=99s already happeni= ng as some projects no longer distribute tarballs). What do maintainers think of that policy? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.