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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1665726172; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=W2bcYb2PzBRafRHn+/nySKOlabaNiXL4MZmeF/QFM9g=; b=naOeT1jg+j9dR1u6uRe15uE7vpl2IvsO/mRnuFOD8M2JirH3kKOuJVMRjOPAryXPD21WZ6 WYVyo1iDm/VMxj7dP67bCRO/evMqgm66BUafNDWBnXiGlWNa2gAmS2Gj86Z4CCGVFHRCZC hNy90fERz5u7q7ponkugW8jFm34XQqkFAI1cwlW596lLcAoIbXKFjLK0TIzr/QMUCEqxsS 5l1fcmnAGr3AUvfq/wJXvbwoPkzc5SEQx3SnKV61k8D0DucWZJTk4gDBxSQpcM19dNrLmF 9YTrlcEVOIPH0wIAHWEtv1rdsqroJHgt9jhcnp3MHMoQUHU+zBh4XGqW/SJMGQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1665726172; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=hVWnThelcG2XO80gXWmtALJl4xV50edTyOle6AUk+lrjHS4Gq1Ej1qd/UbkFgEV7nP5Hma l5sIlkQr/IMVc/Vsg7eaE6loc6Wm4X6GqY3ymBZ5H3ncPoKKFRwWZZaMZVny9s6dqx3/lV /LJSRg8+7qSVfIh93wvD3uplRVa2ja3IO1s1sHInIBTSUQwyjX8MRLUm6vsjJYIBGodUmW 6hErjZVShE7VgyTn01FOjqvjWMALcZX1yfi33/gwmkXdlCZ3KXgKDiCyIQ6X8qLkQW3owf cC7V/JklFuXxH8FSTyYUBEdMp+Ioo/P0TCtOLKy8W9qOxKXF8Bi+IuUqSVsKlQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=trop.in header.s=gm1 header.b=lxZHH+Ye; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.60 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=trop.in header.s=gm1 header.b=lxZHH+Ye; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1E6FE38E98 X-Spam-Score: -3.60 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: oKnIa+qxsnHh --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2022-10-13 09:36, Felix Lechner wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Please accept my apologies for sending the message below. Aside from > being impolite, my note was also ill-timed given your newly-won status > as a committer. I could have hardly been more tone-deaf. If at all, I > should have written in private. > > While not a great explanation, I occasionally spend time with > scientists and engineers working on weapons. Over the years, I have > become cynical about the progress of technology. It was not the first > time that I have been vocal in technical forums about embracing life > rather than taking it. > > I felt sorry for several weeks and hope you can forgive me. May this > follow-up in public remove any stain from > your good name. No worries, I'm not offended or anything :) I just have a huge email backlog and didn't allocate the time to reply yet, sorry. Also, have an additional time wastes due to unfortunate events happening in my country and for now I usually read, mark as todo and skip messages, which don't block anyone. > > Thanks for Guix Home! My pleasure!) > > Sincerely, > Felix > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Felix Lechner > Date: Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:09 AM > Subject: Re: [POSTMORTEM] Subkey is not authorized by .guix-authorizations > To: Guix Devel > > > Hi, > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 7:27 AM Andrew Tropin wrote: >> >> Re: [POSTMORTEM] > > I have likewise used those words to describe concluding reports or to > communicate lessons learned, but upon reflection I now prefer > "incident summary" or "debrief". [1] Since both of my suggested > replacements are associated with the military, they are also not great > examples of favoring life over death, but at least the parties are not > yet in the morgue, so there is hope. > > Long live Guix! > > Kind regards > Felix Lechner > > [1] "debriefing strategies maximize ... the collective experience", > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debriefing =2D-=20 Best regards, Andrew Tropin --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEKEGaxlA4dEDH6S/6IgjSCVjB3rAFAmNI9rMACgkQIgjSCVjB 3rA7wA/+PnVarM6lEiMxkj7G9xQNKE7jK7Pxnh+WWxF3WIBVQ410W2rpfSV0tEYD FIvNy8THpz6Ri9zm/7Y74+YMuTRSuis9VGPwzlYQEdeM3DLjNFz3fMU2QG79iEnS Iws+uhv4qaYPd24kEKDYpKSOni3gscbkGgd0CrL+eLsk2/wL74vS7lTmJ0ir050/ nykTrYYXNo/OQO+OLV829vGGgx4+sx+JVXJ5DEKbUTEPHneKAVArzZefa6C8vaMk +DdoyUCBSBgpLTy8cuMk+MlV/T4ZOstnoxXtiWXow8+AONdb+fiv/goHl/ryUnXN nliCoIv3CZl14hqqYZ0TblbT8SxFg3ov32kh2pHWe8xn1aInhrKiHWPfk6BXNauq XO1fEWrESwHS0HNt8DKD+mpmw1WYuYnfTfk8ab5NSSQ1ix9lcq1w6+y7NOKEsiK3 z4E3Z0EPbJ1Lyd7/hTPxDBGo424QeCPDreeBhdm0pn0Fe5clLIEfSXVnmGJPzfdl GiCzrQC1Vc9i5q0Ez+jG6MgjxFpU3uSYATAN+XlbC1zIrqtl27Yo8MIqSh60yS0m OILX2IkhTeYGNe8vmSXBjdeqQECmHwQOLMiznrRknJhxExjdHy9Hsg1ZSDW3LnHq LU4CLmXKe43yqD0yCIPVwilG1k/Xas9qGC41Iply3ceRyAO9bDM= =zs7x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--