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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1681738367; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=8CvXNpmKtfTSO+t+xDiOP//YYyhEmHFKRd+QxOEapfk=; b=p8CRpCWjZFo0/KbcnbiwUmWWuVmMitZ13PuufaJHQPBOwD/Nx5TyMN7lBuLJlsEoNNPH3r 4D0j9TBCtU55eCqJ5GkBTqaVrYILh1QmGm2tm+HWoHrUB9ysn//OejAPo6QewSM710X7x0 aEc8buEN1BYGql9C6xqb6v00QE5kMYf1ApgKd6ZD3UPHBd6BA8j2yRsPELWncz+J4GqDlB TGf8jSDxs094WXUX1g0dlud+xdc9ZqIFx+Z0V1QDp/+9TILYMxwhfuoSwu0DjVkLvzpn0T G3Lk6xu31PhYP/cjs7LYbxSf+j6zyu+j3Pih4GUjD+8lfu9UzD7uXhHOAjDXfQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=b8X66+lI; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1681738367; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=jfC7AYmkGmJrml9jXyB+UWDrtz2dkRxLY1l2J258cqGTgbZzCP4Z9mgIPbWjAFSqmPZgOR 3Wms+hExI3ohzlRPaHrkNgSawrBTP6F4MysFnaC92mhHBztOknT6hsSU7gnrLw4+M7cMeY PVx6jnJRuNWkjjfLhphpqTRdivKkEzwuqM+XiFsBoNfkMfCvi5KWI4v5spVkjO5QwaCWjT hxf2hFnrzSJRr+tq+WKDnVtjtyQn/dO+IehRzwDLjgA2Zj05kuhuAF8u/lTLGdtpqJHKC1 sA95n27meqvqKvCvRY8Z2YshSmh8aNhIAvpKw87N5Knfyrv90JD8/D5ZxnFlMA== Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=b8X66+lI; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.72 X-Spam-Score: -7.72 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3B978399B0 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: FVUsQCOiH1yK Hi Konrad, Konrad Hinsen skribis: > That problem has been reported elsewhere and identified as caused by an > expired certificate: > > https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/18441 > > > I guess there is nothing we can do retroactively to fix this, but can we > do something to prevent such issues in the future? This has been discussed on several occasions, such as: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/58650 Unfortunately there=E2=80=99s no bullet-proof way to avoid these time bombs. My plan is to write a service that makes it easy to offload a build to a VM that runs with a different time (=E2=80=9Cin the past=E2=80=9D) or somet= hing along these lines to mitigate the problem. Ludo=E2=80=99.