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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.04 X-Spam-Score: -5.04 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C85565DC62 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-TUID: v9uMknsINNNH Hi Sarthak, Sarthak Shah writes: > As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as > they aren't very easy to navigate compared to forum threads. I'm not sure wether having a web-based user forum solves this issue as it would be yet another place to look up a potential solution in. I'd also argue that a web-based forum doesn't provide anything mailing lists can't when it comes to the ability to have threaded discussions. In my opinion there are two things to potentially solve here: - discoverability of information across the various places where these could've been found (debbugs, mailing list archives, irc logs, docs); which more or less boils down to having better search options. - if there are questions that common that they usually get asked frequently/looked up frequently, that's usually an indicator to improve documentation on the topic. > It would also immensely help to have community discussions and other forms of information concentrated in one > location instead of split over the IRC and the mailing list. This would most likely mean a split across three locations, IRC, mailing list and a potential forum, instead of just two then. Regards, Wilko Meyer