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From: Ian Eure <ian@retrospec.tv>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 11:08:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tthq3yr5.fsf@meson> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJsg1E9Yj16+CQht4T4TBEp5t4gP-ktWGhXUyPrydcTCZGKP_g@mail.gmail.com>

Guix sends archive requests to SWH.  SWH gives that source code to 
HuggingFace.  HuggingFace demonstrably violates the licenses.

Guix could stop sending archive requests to SWH.  This wouldn’t 
*stop* the bad things from happening, but it would *stop 
condoning* them.  The same as how Guix not allowing non-free 
software doesn’t stop people from running it, but doesn’t condone 
it.

Please read my replies in this thread, and the earlier 
"Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive" one.  I have 
outlined the situation, repeatedly, with references.

Thanks,

  — Ian

Andy Tai <atai@atai.org> writes:

> What is the role of GNU Guix in this? If Guix is mainly a 
> referral
> mechanism like web page links to the actual contents, the real 
> problem
> is not Guix but the use of free software which can be obtained 
> via
> other mechanisms directly anyway to train LLMs if Guix is not in 
> the
> loop?



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-18 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-18 17:12 Next Steps For the Software Heritage Problem Andy Tai
2024-06-18 18:08 ` Ian Eure [this message]
2024-06-19 10:31   ` raingloom
2024-06-27 12:27   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-06-27 15:30     ` Ian Eure
2024-06-27 16:48       ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-27 16:58       ` Ludovic Courtès
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-06-28 18:01 Juliana Sims
2024-06-19  7:52 Simon Tournier
2024-06-19  9:13 ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19  9:54   ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-19 10:25     ` raingloom
2024-06-19 15:46       ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-20  6:36         ` MSavoritias
2024-06-20 14:35           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-21  8:51             ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 10:34     ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 14:41   ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-20  6:51     ` MSavoritias
2024-06-20 14:40       ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-21  9:08         ` MSavoritias
2024-06-18  8:37 MSavoritias
2024-06-18 14:19 ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19  8:36   ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 17:00     ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 18:42       ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-20 20:54         ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-20 20:59           ` Ekaitz Zarraga
2024-06-20 21:12             ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-21  8:41             ` Dale Mellor
2024-06-21  9:19               ` MSavoritias
2024-06-21 13:33                 ` Luis Felipe
2024-06-20 21:27         ` Simon Tournier
2024-06-18 16:21 ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 16:33   ` MSavoritias
2024-06-18 17:31     ` Greg Hogan
2024-06-18 17:57       ` Ian Eure
2024-06-19  7:01       ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19  9:57         ` Efraim Flashner
2024-06-20  2:56         ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-06-20  5:18           ` MSavoritias
2024-06-19 10:10 ` Efraim Flashner

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