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Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl> skribis:

> The combination of 'guix pull' held a promise, were it not that pull is
> also iffy. Probably for pretty much the same reason.
>
> The bootstrap+configure scripts try to work that, but actually
> address a wider case. I.e. people who want to bootstrap in Debian etc.
> I don't think we need al that. I write Makefile.guix for my projects
> and they tend to be simple! Once you can assume Guix is there life
> gets simple as a developer - except when you try to bootstrap :0
>
> The instruction I would like to write for others is:
>
> 1. Install the latest bootstrap-guix-from-source package after a guix pull
> 2. git clone guix && cd guix
> 3. run make -f Makefile.guix=20=20
>
> (no configure is needed in guix!)
>
> 4. ./pre-inst guix etc. etc.

I think there are two very different use cases.

As a user I want something like =E2=80=98apt-get update=E2=80=99, which is =
what =E2=80=98guix
pull=E2=80=99 tries to do.

For Guix developers, I think it=E2=80=99s reasonable to have a traditional =
GNU
build system.  After all, Guix is also a regular software package that
people can build from source with =E2=80=9C./configure && make && make inst=
all=E2=80=9D.

My 2=C2=A2,
Ludo=E2=80=99.