From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 8Ij0ChLMsl5JYQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 14:39:14 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id wC4IOx3Msl5qQQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 14:39:25 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142::17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAB53940E99 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56136 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWLCm-000571-Ia for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:39:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60294) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWLCf-00056u-Mj for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:39:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56271) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWLCf-0006eX-56; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:39:17 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=60954 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jWLCe-0001OH-6Q; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:39:16 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Leo Famulari Subject: Re: MIPS support References: <87blo1ydsf.fsf@cbaines.net> <20200408220745.GA18252@jasmine.lan> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 18 =?utf-8?Q?Flor=C3=A9al?= an 228 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 16:39:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20200408220745.GA18252@jasmine.lan> (Leo Famulari's message of "Wed, 8 Apr 2020 18:07:45 -0400") Message-ID: <87sggdf7qm.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -1.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-1.01 / 13.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49642047939885]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.12), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.50)]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ludo@gnu.org,guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[gnu.org:url,famulari.name:email]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gnu.org]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; DNSWL_BLOCKED(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:from]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: 9m2zEOThYqew Hi, Leo Famulari skribis: > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 08:32:00PM +0100, Christopher Baines wrote: >> I was wondering about MIPS support, mainly because the Guix Data Service >> uses QEMU to emulate different systems so that the channel instance >> derivations can be computed (like [1]). I'm not sure if the emulation is >> really necessary, but that's how it works at the moment. > > I'm not sure if the MIPS port ever resumed after being suspended: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2017-03/msg00790.html In the intervening years, interest faded away as free software friendly MIPS hardware became more rare. Perhaps it would be more honest to officially remove the MIPS port now? Technically that would involve removing it from the manual, from configure.ac, and little more. If there=E2=80=99s a need for it in the future, and developments happening = for MIPS in general (for the GNU tool chain, the kernel, etc.), then we can always start a new MIPS port. Until then, POWER9 and perhaps RISC-V seem to have more appeal to free software hackers. What do people think? Ludo=E2=80=99.