From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id 4GrwAJBFhF/XOgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 12:01:20 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id QNtbOI9FhF/oRAAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 12:01:19 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61035940149 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 12:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48706 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRwVy-0001Td-0B for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 08:01:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44950) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRwNK-0000P2-2t for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 07:52:22 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41425) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRwNJ-0000uf-Ar; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 07:52:21 -0400 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=54124 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kRwNI-0005WC-PI; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 07:52:21 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Danny Milosavljevic Subject: 32-bit builds on 64-bit hardware/VMs References: <863630u6ap.fsf@gmail.com> <20200929170747.754fb8e9@scratchpost.org> <20201007173944.779a51e9@scratchpost.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 21 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:52:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20201007173944.779a51e9@scratchpost.org> (Danny Milosavljevic's message of "Wed, 7 Oct 2020 17:39:44 +0200") Message-ID: <87sgajslu5.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.51 X-TUID: Wgy2qUeo9pb0 Hi Danny, Danny Milosavljevic skribis: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:51:46 +0200 > zimoun wrote: > >> I have read Bug #43513 and Patch #43591 [1,2] and the table [3] is not >> really encouraging. :-( > > This bug has serious repercussions for bootstrapping--and thus for the en= tire > GNU Guix distribution (not to mention those other distributions which do = not > enable large file support). If I were glibc I would be recalling their > last few releases and would be telling everyone not to use those releases. I think we need less drama and more pragmatism. :-) Evidently, we=E2=80=99ve lived with those bugs for years just fine. So I think we need to focus on the short-term plan for 1.2, which cannot be a full rebuild. As a start, could you comment out in =E2=80=98machines-for-berlin.scm=E2=80= =99 the machines that need to be removed in order to not run 32-bit builds in potentially buggy environments? (I=E2=80=99m sorry that I haven=E2=80=99t been able to contribute more to t= he discussion around all the work you=E2=80=99ve done, but I=E2=80=99m really overwhelmed= by information and feel unable to determine the severity of the problem.) Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.