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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-maintainers@gnu.org, Raghav Gururajan , Leo Prikler , guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619126710; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=E3xrKNuSa4fLHLEhf9A84MdGk92+hrDNk/BIdYr+F7s=; b=VKOj6X+77KM2w+Q14qz+MC0boGtKIw5wsRdBNVgqViO5BswLqcEcj9SPLinAoOiyt0YejN 5wt80dp8Ap/VrFsfy8GRdyBUq400Qlle3Td+z+fifjil4NaodkCA43RfMWGPqpo2ZuwKQw hYqDZMzz1FRoYJ7230WSgrl7tcyzT+zqGnFR6vKDWxDW2Dr4NWkGD2klDHTziA9qfZIaQx 8qRjogvIe4ssQUFqrqd/1EkvOs0I71SCnscagOmXlMowsvxWPG4eHfSgPl5Sq4sTv+bQwm vJMSC/qK8Wqe4gJZta7L8nl6vGIQdeFkJCtcUNSYSsz4ASyW3/A2hMvYr251zA== ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619126710; a=rsa-sha256; cv=fail; b=KNEPjXo46xp2AAHJN07G6OmI5GwUY4rGNjKsBsLlyOjWzSlELy0xR1ZggSWJVLCELRJJq1 ZdGafcVVFWtuEaISwU0y15xEEZxQ83sMqiURka/16Z+V4Cb6Yo0Ogmv0ADZi92THBB8+0e BjO3+4vUqywPAW0Xk1tEBmYKJ0+vZMI2IXbhSE+6++jO3JOKOGU68Iz4m6MfIx4kNBnEJV yMzIJMZE2fzACg4D9F8k6XAJtR8wjM/eATXHnAgEfmc8c6fM4AZvU6lJ0NL8sE4q3D6p+S t07QdsASyMPdOICqekTbaYV9tzXC8QD1Vc/mdZyuN6gQLYy039aZjb1Or2sQIA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=UZXRnESt; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.55 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=UZXRnESt; arc=reject ("signature check failed: fail, {[1] = sig:zohomail.com:reject}"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 57CC61B1A4 X-Spam-Score: 0.55 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: HyD0dprgSIkr L=C3=A9o, > On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 13:40 -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote: >> This commit was digitally signed and pushed to the 'wip-gnome'=20 >> branch >> by >> Raghav, but it's also "Signed-off-by: L=C3=A9o Le Bouter", so I'm=20 >> not sure >> who bears primary responsibility for this one. > > It seems you are more focused and spend more time sending=20 > accusations > here than collaboratively working to improve GNU Guix. I don't=20 > feel > like that's something great to do at all. Please try to deescalate. While I disagree with Mark=E2=80=99s earlier style and harsh tone towards=20 Raghav (who has been trying to get more of his older commits that=20 are relevant for a speedy upgrade of Gnome in shape), it seems=20 obvious now that Mark attempts to understand what signing off on=20 the changed commit means in this case =E2=80=93 what motivated the=20 expansion of the scope of the commit, what resulted in not=20 declaring all of the significant changes. I do think it is reasonable to expect an explanation, so that we=20 can collectively address the potential issue (patches removed=20 without upgrade), and prevent it from happening again. Escalating the situation by insinuating bad faith does not serve=20 any constructive purpose. Obstructing the investigation into what=20 happened will only make it harder to prevent it from happening=20 again. It is in our shared interest to prevent problems like=20 this. Also note that Guix has a pretty good track record when it=20 comes to clear commits, so it is not unusual for long term=20 contributors to be at the very least confused by what has happened=20 here. --=20 Ricardo