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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619989985; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=8p+Fcud5H62dQ9+/BuDROXZ9Ucle7byVL/TFe+ksfEg=; b=je91Vmq7nttWNDeq0jmG/W6/a8CT6rEHYjaP4K2LRR8dd7zvfYP97HcGS1PUhZA+xIPCRX bRGpowEkCJ9IkY1XHr7e0h4rJSeRWlqdPP5Y2qmSMcHg1lauc+4S3uAU1mlDzkxfW2Eku6 XuASfR3hxBG2nQtZroTB99CgOhSmRPTw0qwjT9njJQvRNlb3LRZBuB3C8GZ9eRajOGpX7k yMNbZfkKFOS3wsPIfcSUX1Ope89JC33g44hOt8d7Qm8f062TxVRkERZ7RnUm0s3ReDjWoW lV45VJaOBcRUf68GX5xM3tkNT59iE3wgV9VNZh9SYb9uRM2e0ND4iantd24N3g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619989985; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bQJXPtoVFiSjYvtIFuIppJIHCXcF2aOjtVTMZtAbaqLRVsn6id+fdZzeghhEr6y3HNUIXK 55esu2tgP0WQml+bqpO7Rd0usRvaTNrj+kFl/TD6MGDtkgJRbUytazBKM7EVt6LEy55mZW nlUwF6x+JFd555WmcfGk1d8j6JdPRu+F1P+5lWDfNi7I5Rl3ZB8WXf8xInxgQphj9PwKwT WPZ2kYMdGiP+SgNfICy0Fr6vl/QgxQJal8EaKtjDvRtN/9yjxzGtciPENkgxGkMy9Y0XqJ BnrSybqEd/maWg69NELX0a2qpzri3u2mh2im80C5Cr/wMMRnB5eP6FW5EQhBrw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.96 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4B7AF15E94 X-Spam-Score: -1.96 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: LKYjwC5uA70U Hi, Mark H Weaver skribis: > For most purposes, the relevant question is: which license(s) cover the > source code, because that's where users will want to exercise the four > freedoms of free software. The license(s) that cover the package > outputs are of far less interest, because that's not where users will > exercise the four freedoms. > > The 'license' field can only mean one of these two things, and I think > it's fairly clear which one it should be. Moreover, I think that this > is what it has always meant in Guix. If not, that's a problem. > > Perhaps Ludovic would like to clarify? I think Leo=E2=80=99s description reflects the initial intent (I believe th= is was discussed a few times on the mailing lists in the early years). The GNU Hello example Leo gave is a good one: we state the license that applies to what gets installed and do not list licenses applicable to auxiliary build scripts, say. HTH! Ludo=E2=80=99.