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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Damien Zammit , bug-hurd@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1628887741; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=WCdRopQkbGzd1dxG/m40b1vcpbdUEWED06y4lZRp7eo=; b=WsVXHWU3V3Fetw8QkvwTcAjNsneVFpICsUzfFQy3natywsgABxhYQeKOHj3asGKf93JPKN cBUG6W0o0T2GsP/v46sz/S6w7XgSJK2KXwRSDLOJSm40eAkWVorK5AjwVU3kCtFVeAwFW1 NFHmTkKAlgcYGb4o9J6uX4TJiBop3Qc+P8w7pu9+9T5ZciAprERCLp4bwxmu5zNaP/hk6n svcn2RucxMALGcIMRmr5rgog9ZBjbZI3o3/QcbBzUt2gdxwT0BcRxYu5Yk2Qw6h9r1IID7 WWzN12ejurbZFXTQI2wVDfCJJEGheO/9wBuQNKEElqbNbFppdb+PM7w9YppLTw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1628887741; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=EoeVmpa9/6hlz6fQEAStUyO1C8Z6DelQ46j0gFBxH6+PG+h3HxtF6lTLwf/UO8aqvJCoAO tkuJlXnQCsHoDDkvE8dQqXi9DmawbfYv70B8wSZdCZLvuJXGGrjI6OEiIjn6oM0jC/RJZq 7nHy52lLFoMoibf71m2/jDOcm2lRwHpkeAbY4k8CIkXmTYW2MRJRgokgvsNWIX4hlnMLJN N4QrsvsuGLpfrrNqYVlYZDKQGYRzQFa3IOKHQtugjsrYEc37jI/8bmlW4NIOE+XS1M5/iY PEoaWLrPVYgq7xt4xTw6oBA8PKmaPRvW9Ctl/Vvf6z1XdYWCoW+NKOEmwdfXjg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=lIqmKYpD; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=web.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.41 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=lIqmKYpD; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=web.de (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 54338182CF X-Spam-Score: -2.41 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 9tcH5Xe/CX4+ --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maxime Devos writes: > Upgrading the GPLv2-only code might be dificult if multiple people hold > the copyright, so for the GPLv2-only code, it might be a good idea to sti= ll > require copyright assignment. When we did it for Mercurial, going from GPLv2 only to or later took years and a *lot* of work. That=E2=80=99s why I consider copyright assignme= nt to the FSF as a good idea. They still get restricted to only use that to further Free Software (if they violate that, the assignment loses the reliablility that they need). >> Even if you do keep it yourself, it makes it more difficult for anyone t= o enforce >> the GPL for that project. > > A fair point, though I don't know how accurate that is. From=20what I read, it=E2=80=99s the most important point, because the first answer the other sides lawyers always give is =E2=80=9Eyou=E2=80=99re not a= uthorized by *all* authors to enforce the GPL, so you lose.=E2=80=9C Best wishes, Arne =2D-=20 Unpolitisch sein hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein ohne es zu merken --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEE801qEjXQSQPNItXAE++NRSQDw+sFAmEW2p8QHGFybmVfYmFi QHdlYi5kZQAKCRAT741FJAPD6ybID/0XebQELrTZRo/tGrqFzMvfw+M1FcSIwjwR HIQNM414ex8Mdx/2eHNcxdTq9n0xL5QfPCGw1yOnkC9Jha6fC/mrCyCKTXVWo7x6 /mVAUPlMRtkWgLdJuE2e053jzXTRhmuChr+XYumz/3goGDHaaYFPjSNvEAJj5OS1 IGit4sY7YR/RBPS/8ChSziqsrvTVzy/BlgvpAElvcyk5M3aHV/ofK/S6tatbjFft RwFt2ITYNV05mzDsrg0SIB8HeeFgeAltBNAW0mpxNLZeu5j7LiUXBu93+4/a2rw1 SkvtvQx8cZ2kgAGg+7/aezwJ6Pc5xpaak3t6TkdwR3ifS5ijFRqmsDzcnhgEvr4k MJdGVCVLoMDAgqBBax3wxOprAhNr3DRnTcqes0BPBpARvx23nYSpukrI85Q/naqt uOOyFdMyiZPXbd1yzO00CHEgzNgEuuFjIsvgKt9u98xsQc/ILVxOKi0UB0sepir1 iTEOKZbHUqih0iPZ4wSddrOTjL+okEuUtYOuKrSmkVRYqZfLo6RjrAdFGErVjmeZ nv+4woSWV/9RsZGS32DL9bmJ0beL3Q+sxT1WnMMyfoUNj6rGWaB7MerWZHylInK/ 8eZEkfB67JHoLT8BOR6Ai3ST5VmPd+DJWyEEIlrl8DDGNS9qrA0QptkChGPkRrXJ OH+9eoPh7YjEBAEBCAAuFiEE3Si95tmHXKvOSosd3M8NswvBBUgFAmEW2p8QHGFy bmVfYmFiQHdlYi5kZQAKCRDczw2zC8EFSAL2A/4iigomqvP2JDJY/eQiNGEBuq4x RovFaqxvog5V2O1nmZSSCHVKabAfDN7rEBuGGELVzmjj7q5V+lAnLKAvm3MW8O9q 1j69o6jBJZRfITSqkFxHfIpQcfyrqMAP6VLAst8tz7+txwSWI2Z2Sdyn8213vnJm YOzBnTb+dwH3x0w9hw== =KeQi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--