From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id KB9OAdQPMGGrNAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 01:42:12 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id KPmqONMPMGHqDwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 23:42:11 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9952C1C727 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 2021 01:42:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40862 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLZru-00085j-Iz for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 19:42:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33080) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLZri-00085V-U6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 19:41:59 -0400 Received: from zancanaro.com.au ([45.76.117.151]:51466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLZrh-0004BP-AB for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2021 19:41:58 -0400 Received: by zancanaro.com.au (Postfix, from userid 116) id 421C9357B5; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 23:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from golem (n114-78-12-98.bla3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [114.78.12.98]) by zancanaro.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 324DC3578E; Wed, 1 Sep 2021 23:41:49 +0000 (UTC) References: <87o89owoi0.fsf@trop.in> <87r1edvown.fsf@yoctocell.xyz> <87lf4j8kux.fsf@trop.in> <87r1ebm503.fsf@yoctocell.xyz> <8735qozkt0.fsf@trop.in> <874kb4lcvf.fsf@yoctocell.xyz> <456243eca955ecc83b26663ed4e7e22d5170f03d.camel@student.tugraz.at> User-agent: mu4e 1.6.3; emacs 27.2 From: Carlo Zancanaro To: Liliana Marie Prikler Subject: Re: [bug#50077] Separate =?utf-8?B?4oCYZW1hY3PigJk=?= output vs separate =?utf-8?B?4oCYZW1hY3Mt4oCZ?= package (was Re: [bug#50077] [PATCH 1/3] gnu: notmuch: Add separate 'emacs' output.) 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: 50077@debbugs.gnu.org, guix-devel@gnu.org, Xinglu Chen , Andrew Tropin Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1630539731; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=vijsxNgiNH8FpckQ1qClpXc9AL4NK9MZmNsdGhYultg=; b=ZNEQsuTE20b6RyNIXjdwPl8dgr4VQkDuzri066TxV1/+DXXJqghLE1SOr4tJLGrl5M5dXV DZOuNbnVHW5z3yYpgXGUpp3byv+m5WIaNfbbDAkNpzA1vyzTLw9stV1TQWWfGw6YNpyntO O/vA5iwWipPg1IUxVg1zzM/CKry/uqRSaBEuCRAU7gfbeqRkft5bmtteJK1agcNNle/SY+ mtkZJm2eZ1jh8FEWSDQAswjM+7Sx0cF8Hg8petiATw2Ebcz8eRtbFnARhPS32MTgxe8+sm 31YfWvRyAwI9oQHiD7S0KRl4W/zGbPnoyTXgGEYslSUfVlry8ahYlxhQ58Egog== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1630539731; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=UI22w0LzvvdohMdXIX872XSELpfKamGlz6wL+X1OGSuB5RnT3L7obJhAMMqnlgImeJPAOc rrHA4XfUgf8yI7+eTxxXF8cP0o56bFNR5LkAaZ++P0DRaffpmXXcL0RURxaCgWm57pSFox m8QQLNfpLbcHkIQnit/OsCbpif6MO5C9mAfSsNTU0Z8jYZlZKKf5y6DMmE/SV/cYa//w1y yf4EzYL2nVlA4McjpbWA7TKLMYpZZcBBFHqU81HlSALeUh6H/E1fMBIvDUgQZ5Ge9dt6zj fgfsS1QZ2iFGtEJohkudhlajQjlIRE6h/tuCeMwtpNaX6gDIyg7z8EcjPmeZPw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.42 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9952C1C727 X-Spam-Score: -2.42 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: NxvbD4dEya/S On Wed, Sep 01 2021, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > TL;DR: I'm generally in favor of branching emacs support > packages off, even if origins are to be inherited. This is my preference, and there is precedent for this in Guix already. I know of emacs-protobuf-mode and emacs-erlang which are separate packages, but which reference the source of an existing package (with (package-source protobuf) and (package-source erlang), respectively). I like how easy it is to discover Emacs packages by looking for the emacs- prefix. Mu and notmuch already violate that prefix expectation, moving their elisp into a separate output would be further hiding the Emacs modes. Carlo