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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1677694903; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=UtyS/J13UV1opJW+4rXxkvlo2FD2plqrm4/j07OthP8MMyZ55skMHrDqpaUh2zxkiiRA3u sIa0wTlOu3QgWin/6+wsb+qkfDVVK52oMM6UBLIgfCc10AgjB/Xeel0xEt6+eVscf4h9D6 xXXHhimSJY54xJuvQvSApI829ZqrVCDVwvfE8mvv3S2pVsNVNyhLDfmTCGmNiY/rYE+rRL 7oNvoiMBSYwJ+4CcxA/seIdwICSyokRbUC33QTogneitITGPj/cTixDjLxw7J2q50eFDAw ouoYN/I42buTuhsv5o2JKP+1synaHYe6cAgnO2jBLH0cwkwL1xvnSFKodMb5vw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1677694903; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=qKFZabqNB07I7zsULfZVWsQWbnql8bENk+eHQmiFyCg=; b=S1WbRY9GOZLi6RL47HIP6iRZ9fB+ce2N2Ypaj7u8mm753xuyXHYrhx56dvr88FD7lCNz7k LbqFWAkssU7wEAemFH3Li22IpOa/eswbF0GHcK1eMoymjkfji8DMNGRiI4h98M8ElQVU3G gqNpRSk6Ay5EUspib/+L0ZP+LuQtQiKH5XOgTaaVXvMYBoDaHqlLbJ5LEEzNNUE7jpkrzz YMMdzeySlCyePRibVklDa65TZp13+l3U6nesm6j5T7J5MI0uh0AfLG/WgeUcBGaE/tJQcf WYTW6Qy7WDmAdI8XrrniClu26UFse1+rhLfu07zN8x+TwYpZhv0kOpjoLyOG/g== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.59 X-Spam-Score: -3.59 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 23CF2146BC Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none X-TUID: Yt1746SBTC/7 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bj=C3=B6rn H=C3=B6fling writes: > On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 17:15:26 +0000 > Christopher Baines wrote: > >> I guess I'm still a team sceptic, I think the idea is interesting and >> I have added myself as a member of some teams. But the main impact on >> me so far is that I've just been getting some unwanted personal email, >> messages that previously wouldn't have landed in my inbox have been >> doing so. >> >> Regarding this change specifically though, I'm unclear how it would >> impact the things I push for others. I pushed some patches today, >> would this mean that I'd have to look at what team/teams are involved >> (according to /etc/teams.scm.in) for each commit/series, and then >> either continue if I'm a member of that team, or skip it if I'm not? > > I'm on Chris' side. We need less burden to review/push, instead of more > formal rules/obligations. Identifying when you share someone's views in a discussion can be helpful, but I don't see how taking sides is, we should all be on the same side. 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