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From: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, Christopher Baines <mail@cbaines.net>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Guix size reduction work group
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 09:09:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1z2c17u.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ3okZ3T17OU3ER9nfVDWAQQz2EY+hx4XuRs33j=Lr1Nz-t-LA@mail.gmail.com>

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zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> writes:

>> Say FOO has BAR in its closure, but not in the explicit inputs, how can
>> I figure out which of the indirect inputs drags BAR in?
>
> I do not understand what you are looking for, but there is already:
>
>    guix graph -t reverse-package
>     guix graph -t reverse-bag

Yes, but this produces way too big a graph, which was my point below.

> Maybe something more dynamic using 'd3.js' or similar to view *big*
> graphs could help.

Indeed!

> The first step seems to list what operations and filtering is missing.

I'm not sure what d3.js can do, but I can think of the following:

- The ability to "hide" nodes and all their edges by making them
  translucent (so that they can be unhidden).

- Hide/show all nodes inside the mouse rectangular selection.

- Hide/show all nodes matching some text.

- Close the current selection, that is, if some intermediary nodes are
  hidden for the currently showing nodes, show them.

> You could propose such feature to the Guix Data Service.
> For example, on this webpage [1], the history of all the Git package
> in Guix is shown. The closure size could be reported.
>
> [1] http://data.guix.gnu.org/repository/1/branch/master/package/git

This is a great idea!  Christopher, what do you think?

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-10  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-04 15:57 Guix size reduction work group Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-04 16:22 ` zimoun
2020-02-04 17:59   ` Julien Lepiller
2020-02-05 15:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-05 16:11   ` zimoun
2020-02-07 21:35     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-07 22:31       ` Gábor Boskovits
2020-02-08 13:40         ` zimoun
2020-02-10 13:13       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-02-11 14:15         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-08 16:43   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-02-09 23:45     ` zimoun
2020-02-10  8:09       ` Pierre Neidhardt [this message]
2020-02-10  8:46         ` Christopher Baines
2020-02-11 14:17           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-10 10:30         ` zimoun
2020-02-10 12:33         ` Julien Lepiller
2020-02-11 14:20     ` Ludovic Courtès

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